The unity of Unix

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Since you are trying to be nice and make intelligent statements (as opposed to your "regular troll mode"), I will respond to your post.

[What it does mean is that the Red Hat guy's ramp-up to Solaris competence is very small compared to the hurdles faced by a competitor whose experience is encapsulated by an MCSE designation.

No, what it means is you hired an incompetent person. If they can't transfer basic skills of setting up accounts and file permissions then they shoulld have MCSE]

I fail to see the logic/truth in your statement. MCSEs are not trained in UNIX fundamentals, and Solaris admins are. Incompetent people is independent of their training . . .

[ People who categorize the Unix market as splintered or fractured are generally trying to compare it unfavorably to Microsoft's Windows. That's simply wrong:

No its right, you just don't want to admit it.]

On the surface, it APPEARS that UNIX is forked (the origin of that word!), and murph makes a great case UNIX being more of an idea than a brand. I have witnessed the compatability issues with so-called backward-compatable Windoze programs.

[Uh no they haven't. Each Unix is so different from the next (except the BSDs cuz they are uber-leet) they are not the same, especially linux]

If you apply the Windoze litmus test - are all programs located in a single folder (Program Files) - then yes, UNIX looks different. But its not all that terrible, if a file is in one place on one UNIX, then there are a LIMITED number of places it could be on another UNIX (/etc/rc or /sbin/rc?). This is annoying, but does not rise to the level of making two UNIXes "so different from the next".

[For any unix the enemy is not Microsoft, but anyone not using your software.]

True, murph was interjecting his own personal slant here - but most UNIX people believe that M$ IS their enemy. Kinda like the old Soviet Union was our enemy - but we still were civil to each other.

[You forget the other parts of the bottom line, bashing MS every chance you get, talking out of your butt, flaming new people.

Next time your feeling low self esteem and feel the need to bash Microsoft so you can raise it and your ego by the praise of all 10 linux users you should probably do it on a site thats dedicated to such things and operating systems.]

I think that you (and other M$hills) don't understand the basis behind the "flaming". UNIX came first, and it is inelegant but IT WORKS. When a UNIX guy works on a Windoze box, he assumes that everything works, and that everything works consistantly. When things DON'T work, the UNIX guy gets FRUSTRATED and makes comments. This is not grounded in self-esteem issues or braggart issues or pure joy of flaming issues! I really wonder what motivates Windoze guys to flame UNIX . . .

Posted by: Roger Ramjet   Posted on: 07/27/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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