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---What matters (and what the RIAA owns) is the content, but that exactly is what file sharing makes available.---

Again, we may just be arguing semantics, but the RIAA does not own the content, the 1's and 0's. They do have an exclusive monopoly on distribution though. As I said before, if I buy a cd, I certainly own that content. What I can do with that content is limited by law, but it is mine.

---I suppose you'd be happy to go back to the days of slavery and segregation. It was not illegal, so according to your logic it should be tolerated?---

Okay, another semantic argument. I originally read what you were saying as that people doing legal activities should be stopped, even though they're still legal. And in the case you bring up (and it's an awful silly one, comparing the horrors of slavery to the protection of RIAA's cocaine habits), when slavery was legal, you had no right to stop anyone from owning a slave. You had no legal standing. That's the way our country works. You can certainly work to change the laws, and should certainly protest actions you find deplorable, but infringing on others' legally granted rights will land you in jail. If you feel strongly enough about protecting the RIAA's profits that you're willing to face jail time, go right ahead.


---You seem to forget that your freedom ends where other's freedom begins---
And the RIAA's freedom to enforce the protection of their profits ends where my rights begin as well. It's a two way street.

It's interesting how you seem to put the rights of the RIAA above the rights of us normal citizens. What about our fair use rights (codified by law)?
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 03/29/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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I Hope Grokster Wins This Case  itanalyst | 03/29/05
Me too  Jeff Spicoli | 03/29/05
P2P Sharing  lradmin | 03/29/05
David Byrne comments on illegal downloads  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Great Post!  itanalyst | 03/29/05
Makes you wonder  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
Metallica..  Patrick Jones | 03/29/05
Profits and cooked books  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
Yeah but..  Jeff Spicoli | 03/29/05
They did  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
How...  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
dude, you're on crack  Jeff Spicoli | 03/29/05
was going to say the same thing  Jeff Spicoli | 03/29/05
Metallica has lightened up though  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Now...  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
No to Mention...  ZzSmirKzZ | 03/30/05
Besdies that...  toadlife | 03/29/05
RIAA always loses in objective studies...  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
Correctamundo  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
Telemann gave Bach a much needed boost...  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
HA HA HA  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
According to  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/29/05
No free lunch  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Like the song says  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
Wow, Tic...  KOS-MOS | 03/29/05
Yet another study shows p2p networks lead to more cd sales  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Yes the truth needs marketing...  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
Hard Cases Make Bad Law  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/29/05
Should We Do The Same To Microsuck?  itanalyst | 03/29/05
Beat me to it!  Henaway | 03/29/05
Slight adjustments to the law are fine, but don't stifle all technology  tic swayback | 03/29/05
All banned  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
They just want control  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Could not have said it better  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
"best in RIAA's view for their profits"...  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
NEVER penalize people not breaking the law  Dr_Zinj | 03/29/05
Nicely put!  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
A few facts....  cicuta | 03/29/05
Stop making sense  ibabadur1 | 03/29/05
No profit  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
Facts need qualifications  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Freedom has limits  cicuta | 03/29/05
Semantics and Human Rights  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Counter to devil's advocate  Update victim | 03/29/05
Counter  rapson | 03/29/05
Sorry, but  Update victim | 03/29/05
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I didn't say that  cicuta | 03/29/05
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Rebutal...  ZzSmirKzZ | 03/30/05
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Nice idea, but...  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
a ruling in favor of the entertainment execs could set a dangerous  wessonjoe | 03/29/05
True...  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
What about  Update victim | 03/29/05
Artists make money  MIS Master | 03/29/05
Wow, are your numbers optimistic.  Letophoro | 03/29/05
MPAA/RIAA are Criminal Organizations Period  Mectron | 03/29/05
2 major issues here....  critique | 03/29/05
Republican government.  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
Beatable  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Like, Duh!  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/29/05
Glitz and Glam  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Some thoughts  rapson | 03/29/05
Follow the money  tic swayback | 03/29/05
So what else is new?  rapson | 03/29/05
Absolutely, but....  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Re: Some thoughts  none none | 03/29/05
Go for it  rapson | 03/29/05
Simple imperatives, too.  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
Push me pull you  tic swayback | 03/29/05
good point! how is it that the author of this piece and the litigants  wessonjoe | 03/29/05
Day late and a dollar short  Nullifidian | 03/29/05
It's time the SCUMBAG Pirates and P2P Pimps get the message LOUD AND CLEAR  realitycheck101 | 03/29/05
It's Time For You To STFU And Get A Life  itanalyst | 03/29/05
he must be one of THEM  Nullifidian | 03/29/05
Someone needs a diaper change!  Nullifidian | 03/29/05
Hmmm, new-age math  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
everyone steals  praxis22 | 03/29/05
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Just in the USA  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Not for long  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/29/05
Too True  tic swayback | 03/29/05
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Loss of income  geona1 | 03/29/05
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riaa  ben4022 | 03/29/05
Today's testimony favors Grokster  tic swayback | 03/29/05
Expressly  Anton Philidor | 03/29/05
From a radio report...  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
Indications are Betamax will be upheld  tic swayback | 03/30/05
"building its business"  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
License,registration and reciept for that mp3  6shots | 03/29/05
Can only think of 1 thing worse  rmerts@... | 03/29/05
our country should go back to horse riding day then.  M_c | 03/29/05
p2p sharing  cewinnie2 | 03/30/05
Those aren't violations of copyright  tic swayback | 03/30/05
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music downloads  ilikemusic | 03/30/05
LA Times Editorial  tic swayback | 03/30/05
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