This is what I hear from the hackers...
theace18 | 03/22/05
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Persistant little devil I'll give him that much...still
Laff | 03/22/05
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The resistance is never about money, but Evil. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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If only I could get you so riled up about Perscription Drugs
Laff | 03/22/05
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Laff, if you demand copy-protected music ? are you a masochist or who? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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Very worthwhile fight
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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osreinstall, because you cannot talk using common sense ...
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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The notoriety is PRICELESS
Jeff Spicoli | 03/24/05
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Re: This is what I hear from the hackers...
none none | 03/22/05
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Analogy
John Carroll  | 03/22/05
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The difference between renting cars and downloading music
Zogg | 03/23/05
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Running out of music
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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..then the RIAA run out of money & only then they will run FREE music. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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If only
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Personally I think Online stores are a waste of my money
voska | 03/23/05
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Think bigger, Tic - when ?the RIAA run out of money ? ? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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Lets keep dreaming Vily
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Tic, the USSR did fall. Did you foresee it? No dreams? I'm very sorry. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/24/05
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You're sorry because I agree with you?
tic swayback | 03/24/05
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When did the RIAA get involved?
Zogg | 03/23/05
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They got involved when they licensed their content
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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I don't hear the RIAA complaining...
Zogg | 03/23/05
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Do you work for Apple?
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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The real differnce between renting a licensing
voska | 03/23/05
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Re: Analogy
none none | 03/23/05
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Oh, wait a minute
none none | 03/23/05
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The reason why he does it ...
worknman | 03/22/05
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RE: The reason why he does it ...
richdave | 03/22/05
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Then why did he create a Windows version?
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Ping Pong
tic swayback | 03/22/05
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We Will
daeken | 03/22/05
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RE: Ping Pong
richdave | 03/22/05
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To make money?
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Is 100% copy-protected music everything you dreamed of? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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There's no such thing as 100% copy-protected music (NT)
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Not yet, but that's what you want. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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I think you have me confused with someone else
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Tic, but you have excuses for Apple.
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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No, I'm a realist
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Tic, if the majority would follow your realism ? ...
Vily Clay | 03/24/05
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Godwinned (NT)
tic swayback | 03/24/05
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Tic did you get anywhere?
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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As always, when my opponents run out of common sense - ...
Vily Clay | 03/25/05
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RE: Ping Pong
asqarin | 03/23/05
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That would be nice
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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He worked with Apple
nucrash | 03/23/05
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Apple should tie him up in court
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Re: Apple should tie him up in court
none none | 03/22/05
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Oh, one more thing
none none | 03/22/05
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You never know what is going thru a jurer's mind
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Thus, you insist consumers MUST have NO rights, but ONLY corporations.
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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You said that, Not I
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Wow, you are unable to remember what you are talking about. That?s new.
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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not reverse engineered
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Nice Whine
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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RE: Nice Whine
rhavyn | 03/22/05
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It is called the method
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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not a crime, only breach of TOS or EULA
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Are you still complaining?
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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look here
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Bit_Muncher look here
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Im not whining, You are!
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Whining and Moaning
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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You are definitely as blind as a bat
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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You are dumb as a box of rocks and totally defiant
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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here's proof of canada's legal right to copy music
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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And quit insulting people, it shows how bad of a zealot you are
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Yes and it doesn't prove your point
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Bit_Muncher look here
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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more proof -link was in page I gave link to
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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If DRM prevents it that is too bad
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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the law allows for all of it.
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Go Here Bit
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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There is no EULA
voska | 03/23/05
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I am staring at the license as we speak.
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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It is about compliance
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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There is NO EULA
voska | 03/23/05
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Another clueless rant
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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You're wrong
voska | 03/23/05
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It is signed by apple
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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A contract needs both parties signatures
voska | 03/24/05
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You are practical
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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RE: Apple should tie him up in court
richdave | 03/22/05
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A Cracker is a successful Hacker
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Doesn't need it
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Your arguement is full of holes
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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RE: Your argument is full of holes
rhavyn | 03/22/05
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Jon is a Cracker Period!
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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RE: Jon is a Cracker Period!
rhavyn | 03/23/05
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Little touchy there
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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This why it doesn't work anymore
voska | 03/23/05
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In Time
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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That's what I'd do if I worked for Apple
voska | 03/23/05
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Apple's goal is to kink it on the fly!
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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re Apple should tie him up in court
Llandros Loressin | 03/23/05
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Apple should give him a job
Harry Butts | 03/23/05
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My turn to pick the nit with ZDNet's editors
none none | 03/22/05
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DVDs and Linux ...
worknman | 03/22/05
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Not at the time
Michael Kelly | 03/22/05
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RE: DVDs and Linux ...
richdave | 03/22/05
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Releasing the plan to do damage is illegal.
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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People fight for Freedom, you - for a Police State. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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If it were a police state, you would be first on the train!
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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Maybe they cannot build jails fast enough because of Iraq? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/22/05
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Freedom fighters must be prepared to face consequences Vily
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Tic, are you trying to say that you are chicken? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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I'm not willing to go to jail over DRM'ed music
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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You claim that fighting for the granted rights is illegal, right? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/23/05
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Be specific please
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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I didn't see you used legal ways to fight with DRM. I saw the opposite. NT
Vily Clay | 03/24/05
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You saw me use illegal means?
tic swayback | 03/24/05
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Can you judge things you know? I judge you by your writing and you? (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/25/05
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What damage?
seosamh_z | 03/22/05
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You didn't get it
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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RE: You don't get it
rhavyn | 03/22/05
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So why don't they
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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RE: so why don't they
rhavyn | 03/23/05
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He has to play by the rules.
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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He may be following all the rules
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Did you read the EULA?
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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doesn't matter what what EULA says
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Not all countries respect IP
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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some countries do respect IP
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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A lot of countries respect IP
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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AHHA! Got you!
voska | 03/23/05
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that's not what are laws say here.
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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The laws are almost the same in Canada
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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Again you don't undertand canadian law
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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I am standing by my post above
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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what part don't you get
twinkler@... | 03/24/05
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You are whining again!
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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Premature Celebration
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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You don't know what you're talking about
voska | 03/24/05
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voska your blathering again
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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we have no DMCA here
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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You are wrong
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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DMCA can't enforced in another country
voska | 03/24/05
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No law can be enforced externally
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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You are whining again!
osreinstall | 03/24/05
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Which came first?
seosamh_z | 03/23/05
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Yes the laws are stupid
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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Legal Schmeagel
John Carroll | 03/22/05
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Re: Legal Schmeagel
none none | 03/22/05
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Not so quick
seosamh_z | 03/23/05
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Your analogy is flawed John
Tim Patterson | 03/23/05
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Its not Apple's Fault. Its the Consumer's fault.
GreatInca | 03/23/05
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Way to go Jon!
Tim Patterson | 03/22/05
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John Borland, when are you going to smarten?
FirstNLastN | 03/22/05
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My Invention
John Carroll | 03/22/05
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Heard it before - "gun ownership"
Zogg | 03/23/05
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Only reponding to a zealot that has no manners
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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Only reponding to a zealot that has no manners
twinkler@... | 03/22/05
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You are such a complainer
osreinstall | 03/22/05
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I respond, You complain & insult
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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You can insult too
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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I believe in following the law of our land
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Whatever Dude
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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we can bear arms
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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RE: You are such a complainer
rhavyn | 03/23/05
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Cannot access the site now!
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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no it's not
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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He didn't even violate the EULA as there isn't one
voska | 03/23/05
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Which is what I said
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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We shall see
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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The packets are unprotected
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Still didn't read the EULA
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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I read it,
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Still reaching
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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your the one stretching things
twinkler@... | 03/23/05
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Everyone is one that manufactures
osreinstall | 03/23/05
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This proves two things..
Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/23/05
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It also means
Ken_z | 03/23/05
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This is gonna happen every week!
Reverend MacFellow | 03/23/05
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Closer, closer... and closer still
bidemytime | 03/23/05
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What bothers me
TWRX | 03/23/05
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Everyone is missing the issue here....
htotten | 03/23/05
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there is no real protection
Nullifidian | 03/23/05
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This software would increase apple's sales
Protector | 03/23/05
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Increase Apple's sales?
SPMeister | 03/23/05
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Increased sales with no product?
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Naive
Protector | 03/23/05
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Who's being naive here?
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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Naive
Protector | 03/23/05
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Specific numbers
tic swayback | 03/23/05
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I don't get this commnet ...
George Jay | 03/23/05
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it does not apply to him or
Nullifidian | 03/23/05
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Reverse engineering is not illegal
voska | 03/23/05
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Consumers are the ones at risk
Ken_z | 03/23/05
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are you 4 real?
Nullifidian | 03/23/05
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It is still better to contribute by buying the CD and ripping it
GreatInca | 03/23/05
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DVD John needs a new name.
James T. Kirk | 03/23/05
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Only thing about this that bothers me...
KOS-MOS | 03/24/05
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There is a Windows version
tic swayback | 03/25/05
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