Apple disables iTunes hack

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This won't last long

If the software still has access, then it's only a metter of snooping packets from the update to see the validation mechanism. Snooping packets legal (It's what the RIAA and MPAA to catch uploaders, so it's nice it can be used against them as well)

Then the update to the hack will be out... some fix.

What is needed ais a complete overhaul of system and the songe to be encrypted beforehand, and this will have limited success ( since it will have to use permanent keys, which can be figured out - or caught if changed with updates). Like The best experts say "DRM will fail in the long run".

The best solution is offer a cheaper(or free) ,un DRM'ed copy(or mp3) and make the High quality stuff take up a whole DVD - less attractive because of the size and the download time. Then use advertising to help pay for part of the costs. For the time it takes to DL a song (same as TV ad), a ad will pay 5-20 cents (for a poor quality copy) and if you whish to offer high end stuff (large files) you could make you $1.00 per song. The marketers would love it, because they can target consumer demographics easier, making it more attractive than TV and maybe even more cost effective (which may make it more lucritive for the media industry to harvest those revenues or get more than TV ad revenue). Actually a bigger win for both the consumer and for media companies(ISP/P2P companies as well) and possible more revenue if they would adopt it and get off their high horse and accept the enivitability.

You can't get rid of P2P and an easy way will be devised for consumers to hide identities(IP's) permantly from the media companies. With internet speeds to increase (proxying will be adopted as a measure to protect identities) and some countries are already adopting laws to stop the media companies from getting those IP's (illegal in some already) and for them to force the ISP's to disclose identities as well. Some countries have adopted privacy laws just for that reason. If you suspect a case of piracy (you can't use IP info in those counties) you have to have third party (not paid net detectives), a witness or party to the crime that came forward and go to the cops in those countries (otherwsie the media companies should be charge with crimes for violating privacy laws).

Look, I believe commercial exploitation -to steal for profit(like selling copies) -or for personal gain (such as plagerism for promotion/nobel peace prize/Getting employment/ IP theft - to take someone work and use it as your own for your own commercial product), in our country should be illegal, - personal use is exempt. In my country Downloading is legal (and so maybe uploading).

I believe the P2P owe something, since they are using copyrighted material to make money, but it should be no different than radio /or TV , and some kind of licensing scheme like radio shoudl be adopted. History has shown, like in radio, the courts were unwilling to chase consumers for fair use rights/personal use infringement and have sided that consumers have a legal right to view /have content even recorded from radio/TV. What diiference if the broadcast was ISP or internet - NONE. The only difference is the P2P/ISP companies are not paying (much like radio when it started) and what should happen is the courts will come up with same/similiar agreement like radio/TV.

Then it doesn't matter if a consumer gets a free copy, media fails. They will download the same content again & again (even looking for a better copy) making more $$$. Advertisements will pay for it. Radio and TV have lived quite comfortably for many years like this. Movies studio's find it quite rewarding, otherwsise content would not be on TV, Same goes for music & radio.

Why do we have to revisit laws that have been entrench by past courts asn to what's fiar to consumers (for their rights-personl use - not for profit use) ans well as creators rights, that no one profit/make money (commercial use -not saving money from not puchasing) from their works. IT you find a disk in the street and take it, Are you guilty of theft ,no, even if it's stolen. Can you assume it's stolen? - no, our courts have said it's not (consumers are not guilty of any crime because it's legal to assume any material on the net is legal (thus any download is not a crime). There is NO INTENT, and you cannot prove INTENT. Beacuse you gained the media legally, then you have rights beyond those of copyright laws to share with anyone (not for profit), your wife, your kids, the neighborhood. It doesn't matter how many, it's either illegal to share with anyone (not even you kids or wife) and if you allow some, then all are allowed (numbers don't apply - because you can't legally restrict the number of friends a person has, or relatives). In my country we can share music with friends legally (again no profit/no selling must be involved), It one of the rights added as a new addition copyright law here. We also have the right to copy music disk legally, DRM would violate that law here. So the Media industry should be charged with crimes violating the new law (and be sent to prison because of the mass size and scope of violation that section of the law).

If anyone thinks I share music/movies online, I don't and I won't (even though it maybe legal here - uploading is in question though?).

The media companies should look for those that profit (commercial business or mafia) that peddles their wares and leave citezens alone.

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