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"You are trying to convince us that the producer of a non material thing loses nothing when that non material thing is illegally copied. You have failed."

Well, he passed my test. Perhaps you're being a bit too zealous. Oomph!

"GM would NEVER have paid Ford for the plans so it isn't a lost sale."

And neither would copyright infringing teenyboppers! They also wouldn't steal the plans on how to build a music studio, or even to make their own music! "Analogy" destroyed.

"This is why there is fundamentally almost no difference between someone walking into a music store and stealing a CD or someone downloading the music."

OK then, let me walk off with your TV set. Don't worry, I'll leave you with a nice picture of it, since it's virtually the same thing, no?..Oomph!

"The theft of the CD costs pennies. The theft of the content costs $10 and it is the theft of the content that happens whether or not you have physically deprived a record company of its CD."

OK my friend, here's where YOUR "argument" falls flat on its face. If it's the content that we are really paying for, and if we've been getting the same level of content all these years..why then do the price of CDs keep going up?!..Oomph! Ouch! Doh! Done! Yes!!! Can you feel my magic, little boy?...
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Respect  Tim Patterson | 01/07/05
Wow, I like that:  Judas I. | 01/07/05
Let's see who are the people who did these very things  Laff | 01/10/05
Best government money can buy  Chad_z | 01/07/05
Absolutely. (nt)  Judas I. | 01/07/05
Yes, reopen the DMCA debate  johndoe445566 | 01/07/05
Um..  Patrick Jones | 01/07/05
Yes but...  htotten | 01/08/05
big business versus small people  plumley@... | 01/07/05
I have my wishlist too  Nigel Johnstone | 01/07/05
Oh and remove the anti-circumvention clause  Nigel Johnstone | 01/07/05
What's the difference?  Kevin Dean | 01/07/05
I accuse kdean of copyright infringement  Nigel Johnstone | 01/07/05
Precisely  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
Devil's advocate response...  Martin Marvinski | 01/07/05
seriously  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
You are wrong  NonZealot | 01/07/05
try again son  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
You're talking patents not copyrights  voska | 01/07/05
Fair enough  NonZealot | 01/07/05
Your analogy is still faulted....  flafone | 01/11/05
Who's right?  seosamh_z | 01/08/05
I agree  voska | 01/10/05
oddly enough, some software makers create the problem  voska | 01/07/05
oddly enough  buxxmaster | 01/07/05
Microsoft's pretty smart  voska | 01/07/05
Agreed  buxxmaster | 01/07/05
BSA firms want perpetual revenue streams  Sunny Jalolly | 01/07/05
This argument is over how to obtain the names...  Anton Philidor | 01/07/05
It's needed and it will happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/07/05
*YAWN* Like We Care Bitty  itanalyst | 01/07/05
What would be effective?  Mack DaNife | 01/07/05
So your excuse is "The other guy did it"?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/07/05
Well then..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
Yeah  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
Why do BSA companies provide infringement tools?  Sunny Jalolly | 01/07/05
Nice collection of EXCUSES. They don't matter.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/07/05
Well, so far WE'RE winning..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
Thought Suprnova.org was shuttered...  Anton Philidor | 01/07/05
It was, but it doesn't matter  Letophoro | 01/07/05
It is very sad  NonZealot | 01/07/05
try again son  Jeff Spicoli | 01/07/05
Oh that's a bogus statement  voska | 01/07/05
To voska  NonZealot | 01/07/05
Club Shepherd 2005 v1.00  Bridge_SMASH | 03/29/05
Bitty, Here Is The Article Yet AGAIN  itanalyst | 01/07/05
If this law were applied only and always to criminals...  Anton Philidor | 01/07/05
Is it safe to presume any/all of the following are true:  B.O.F.H. | 01/07/05
OH PULEASE!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/08/05
BZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt... Wrong!  B.O.F.H. | 01/08/05
As usual, ranting without the beginning of a clue.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/09/05
Hey AX  htotten | 01/09/05
Fair Use and Copyright materials defined (with cases)  B.O.F.H. | 01/09/05
Neither are legal under the Fair Use laws.  B.O.F.H. | 01/09/05
P2P piracy exist becase the RIAA and MPAA want it too for now  voska | 01/07/05
Huh? What do either have to do with software piracy?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/08/05
existing laws are NOT effective  htotten | 01/08/05
I agree...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/08/05
Absolutely Right On!  htotten | 01/09/05
As much as I support...  buxxmaster | 01/07/05
Howebout Warranting Your Software Instead Of Liscencing  ParadigmOdyssey | 01/07/05
Semantics?  htotten | 01/08/05
Yeah if youv got it. You get it.  ParadigmOdyssey | 01/08/05
Value of Copyright  norm@... | 01/07/05
Americentricism makes me laugh  Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 01/09/05
Oh yeah, the hot bed of...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/09/05
You should travel a bit  Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 01/09/05
But Back to the Subject....  Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 01/09/05
The obliteration of Privacy in the US continues...  BitTwiddler | 01/10/05
the DMCA has been used for everything except what it was intended for  JasonL31 | 01/10/05
I'm all for people to make a fair dollar for their efforts/work  Laff | 01/10/05
The de-evolution of something great.  fozzie | 01/10/05
Club Shepherd 2005 v1.00  Bridge_SMASH | 03/29/05
Club Shepherd 2005 v1.00  Bridge_SMASH | 03/29/05

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