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Suing? Well, not successfully, another loss today
---With suing the pants off the P2P providers?---

And since the Napster lawsuit, how many of those suits have been successful? I don't see many pantsless p2p companies, especially considering the brutal losses US courts have been handing to the RIAA and MPAA as of late. Hey, here's the latest one:

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_01.php#002178
Music Industry Must Respect Privacy of Filesharers

Ruling in Charter Case Smashes DMCA Subpoena Powers

The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a decision today that will stop entertainment corporations from gaining access to the names of people using peer-to-peer (P2P) networks unless the companies file lawsuits against them and furnish actual evidence of copyright infringement.

The case was sparked by a series of subpoenas sent by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) to Missouri-based Internet service provider (ISP) Charter Communications, Inc. The record companies claimed that these subpoenas, which demanded that Charter identify customers accused of offering infringing music on P2P networks, were authorized by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), along with 21 other groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Consumer Federation of America (CFA), and the Computer & Communications Industry Association (CCIA), filed a "friend of the court" brief in the Charter case, urging the Eighth Circuit to determine that the same strong protections applied to anonymous speech in other contexts also apply when copyright infringement is claimed but has not yet been proven. In a victory for privacy and anonymity, the Eighth Circuit determined that DMCA subpoenas could not be used to get this information.

EFF Staff Attorney Wendy Seltzer noted that the RIAA has already changed its tactics for the better in current suits against filesharers. In these new cases, record companies generally file suit against "John Does." Said Seltzer, "In the 'Doe' lawsuits RIAA members are currently filing, a judge oversees the discovery process and can help protect ISP customers before their names are revealed." EFF has filed amicus briefs in several of the Doe cases, and some judges have limited the record labels' discovery of identities through mass lawsuits.

In December 2003, the DC Circuit ruled that the RIAA could not use the DMCA's non-judicial subpoenas to obtain subscriber identities from ISP Verizon Internet Services, Inc. "Charter should be congratulated for following in the footsteps of Verizon in standing up for the privacy of its users," said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. The US Supreme Court rejected the RIAA's appeal of the Verizon case. Today's Eighth Circuit decision is an explicit endorsement of the DC Circuit's ruling.
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Cohen is a dupe  Roger Ramjet | 01/05/05
Actually, this "new tech" already exists  toadlife | 01/05/05
There will always be hope  Protector | 01/05/05
Isn't that what every crook has said?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Yeah..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/05/05
RIAA get what it deserve  toxicfreak | 01/05/05
Adobe?  tic swayback | 01/05/05
I have an idea  NonZealot | 01/05/05
Not Possible  Roger Ramjet | 01/05/05
Anything is possible  NonZealot | 01/05/05
Harder to stop  Roger Ramjet | 01/05/05
Great ideas but not relevant  NonZealot | 01/05/05
You're pointing the finger at the wrong parties  tic swayback | 01/05/05
Good post  Protector | 01/05/05
Nice idea, but "revisionist"  Roger Ramjet | 01/06/05
"Linux and patches and other non copyrighted material"?  B.O.F.H. | 01/05/05
You can't sell adds that way.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Not so easy  Roger Ramjet | 01/05/05
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Technically speaking, the systems are client-serverand not P2P.  B.O.F.H. | 01/05/05
But technically you don't need central server  voska | 01/05/05
A basic description of how BitTorrents work:  B.O.F.H. | 01/05/05
Witch hunts  Roger Ramjet | 01/06/05
Um, that;'s the whole idea...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
Yes, it is  Spoon Jabber | 01/06/05
Great way to greater profits  tic swayback | 01/05/05
tic, that sounds yummy!  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Rose colored glasses  Roger Ramjet | 01/06/05
Huh???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
Worked for TV  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Because that's not what RIAA or MPAA wants  voska | 01/05/05
It's been tried and is ongoing  tic swayback | 01/05/05
This software is just a ruse  LilBambi_z | 01/05/05
I agree with Mr. Cohen on this..  d_jedi | 01/05/05
Like roaches and sunlight...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Yeah, right.  Roger Ramjet | 01/05/05
Huh? What has that to do...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Suing? Well, not successfully, another loss today  tic swayback | 01/05/05
Awesome!  Spoon Jabber | 01/06/05
Obiously more money for more suits is required.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
What's the Deal with all those bozos posts today?  Mectron | 01/05/05
Agreed, too many bozo posts here  NonZealot | 01/05/05
Think your funny?  Mectron | 01/05/05
WTF?  Spoon Jabber | 01/06/05
ROFL...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
Hmmm, we can see who the "Bozo" is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Yes  Jeff Spicoli | 01/05/05
Where do i start?  Mectron | 01/05/05
Well they have broken the law  tic swayback | 01/05/05
The Ratio Inteligent People VS Bozo's is increasing!  Mectron | 01/05/05
Yep, and paid the fine. End of story.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
Ax, u have PB from SSMD's  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Don't let the door hit ya...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
I see one bozo post..  d_jedi | 01/05/05
Hollystupid moved the the west to advoid paying rights to the inventor of c  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Still Recording Tapes and LPs And Distributing Them To Friends?  itanalyst | 01/05/05
Hey No_Ax  Roger Ramjet | 01/06/05
Personal use is allowed of course.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/06/05
You have already admitted to infringing on copyright law.  B.O.F.H. | 01/06/05
Bah  Been_Done_Before | 01/05/05
Well, you got ONE thing right?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/05/05
Well..  Jeff Spicoli | 01/05/05
BUAHAHAHA  Mithridates | 01/06/05
Message has been deleted.  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Demand creates supply.  Anton Philidor | 01/05/05
LAW should force the corporate to give rights  Mectron | 01/05/05
Message has been deleted.  Protector | 01/05/05
Message has been deleted.  Mectron | 01/05/05
The root...  Mithridates | 01/06/05
more to the puzzle  voska | 01/06/05
Free country  Ethanoic | 01/06/05
So far so good...it's fair for all  cybershoplifter | 01/06/05
Exeem might a great tool  Robertbrice | 01/06/05

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