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Will not download Grokster...
... and will not visit the Innovators of Wrestling web site.

Did surprise me that after showing all the garbage available at that web site on a "drive-by" basis, the author included a live link to the site. I expect that's a challenge to non-believers.

Point taken about the incomplete clean-up.
Though I wonder how much of the spyware was authorized and how much could have gotten past even SP 2's generic blocking. Let that pass.

But what is the site testing?
Assume that most if not all of those scanners could identify and remove any of the adware on the list. In that case, the test is checking the completeness of the data base of spyware and adware, as well as the details of each listing that allow complete removal.

Because these scanner programs update continuously, spyware missed at one scan could be caught the next.

Still, this is a reminder of how difficult the problem is. And even if everyone switched form IE there would be little if any improvement because so many of these programs obtain the user's authorization. Any browser, any operating system used at home would allow for installation of applications the user chooses to install.

The social engineers are far ahead of the software engineers on this one.
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what?  JasonL31 | 11/30/04
Because...  vdraken | 11/30/04
but  JasonL31 | 11/30/04
AOL has its own version of IE built into its software.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
AOL = Internet For Idiots  itanalyst | 11/30/04
And getting rid of it wasn't easy.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
LOL!!  itanalyst | 11/30/04
NOW that sounds like fun..sign me up!  Laff | 11/30/04
You're early by a few weeks.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
AOL = Internet for Idiots  CodeBubba | 12/01/04
ah that explains it  JasonL31 | 11/30/04
The good news: now even Netscape has IE.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
The War Is Over? What A Joke!!!  itanalyst | 11/30/04
Possible to avoid adware and spyware with IE.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
Ad-Aware Doesn't Catch It All  itanalyst | 11/30/04
Will not download Grokster...  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
You obviously don't provide Help Desk support...  BitTwiddler | 11/30/04
Thanks For The Vote Of Support  itanalyst | 11/30/04
I still get popups with firefox, too.  d_jedi | 11/30/04
Doctors could conclude everyone is sick.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
What are you talking about?  coffeenite | 11/30/04
Once told, users can remember.  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
That's why I stopped using Adaware  voska | 11/30/04
SpyBot IS spyware  dch48 | 11/30/04
The world is coming to an end  NonZealot | 11/30/04
Perhaps you'd get the complete work of Shakespere  Laff | 11/30/04
No, the Internet has proven ....  coffeenite | 11/30/04
Dont forget the poo....Never forget the POO!  Laff | 11/30/04
Actually, you are right ...  coffeenite | 11/30/04
Having done their best to destroy the computer...  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
Why do you differentiate your zealots?  Jay Cash | 11/30/04
I have a simple answer to your question.  NonZealot | 11/30/04
Simple but incredible  Jay Cash | 11/30/04
Links please!  NonZealot | 11/30/04
Your analogy could be used for Christians as well as  Laff | 12/01/04
If you were right...  John L. Ries | 11/30/04
I Have No Idea  Stephen Wheeler | 12/01/04
A mighty comforting thought  IT_User | 11/30/04
itanalyst--war is still there  w5set | 12/03/04
And this is good news because?  Jay Cash | 11/30/04
"Will work only with Windows"  itanalyst | 11/30/04
Will only work with 95% of all PCs . wink  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/30/04
the current statistic is closer to 91% or 92% of all PCs.  B.O.F.H. | 11/30/04
88%  theo_durcan | 11/30/04
I posted before I had the latest stats, sorry.  B.O.F.H. | 11/30/04
You guys are confusing your stats  IT_User | 11/30/04
The stats are from Windows based PC's.  B.O.F.H. | 11/30/04
So!  gaelicfog@... | 12/02/04
Will Continue To Infect 95% Of All PCs  itanalyst | 11/30/04
Found the curent statistics...  B.O.F.H. | 11/30/04
Any guesses why FireFox 0.1 exceeds 1.0?  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
Don't worry about Apple all present news seems to  Laff | 11/30/04
Basically because  M.Fridholm | 11/30/04
Been around longer  IT_User | 11/30/04
It's not 0.1  Michael Kelly | 12/01/04
Which version is that?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/30/04
haha, only XP probably, no where close to 95%  JasonL31 | 11/30/04
88%, more info  theo_durcan | 11/30/04
Where they have to compete with IE  John L. Ries | 11/30/04
Not smart  John L. Ries | 11/30/04
Confusion  Joe Blow_z | 11/30/04
Alleviation  Anton Philidor | 11/30/04
IE enginve Good!?! Reliable!?! Old....yes.  Laff | 11/30/04
Fits in with LongShot  Roger Ramjet | 11/30/04
Netscape is DEAD ...  coffeenite | 11/30/04
Netscape IS NOT DEAD  Jeff_Alterman | 11/30/04
Netscape IS TOTALLY DEAD!  coffeenite | 12/01/04
Geez don't you read?  Roger Ramjet | 12/01/04
Cyber-Trojan Horse for Netscape: MS holes/bugs ? your holes/bugs.  Vily Clay | 11/30/04
dump IE  empty_z | 11/30/04
Too Late...  Henry_z | 11/30/04
Use IE only for those sites  rhammock | 12/01/04
Firefox  jackman69@... | 11/30/04
This is why there are lawsuits  empty_z | 11/30/04
Printing Problems?  sjworth@... | 11/30/04
Who Cares  dch48 | 11/30/04
IE is out  segurajohn@... | 11/30/04
Who cares? Those who want a modern, non-bloated, W3C-compliant browser (NT)  Black-N-Blanc | 12/01/04
proof that IE is dead  ivanii | 11/30/04
Not dead  arnold_walker@... | 12/01/04
drivers are not guilty  ivanii | 11/30/04
freedom with Firefox and Thunderbird: fast, cross-platform, non-commercial  tilman | 12/01/04
When something better is offered!  rwgaylord | 12/01/04
Spyware free with Firefox Browser  musicman50 | 12/01/04
Netscape can not compite  micron_z | 12/01/04
What?  gaelicfog@... | 12/02/04
Why so much interest, I prefer Opera  cactus101 | 12/01/04
Opera  sguerin_z | 12/01/04
Netscape  rhammock | 12/01/04
Netscape is uninstalled on my systems  CopierGuy | 12/01/04
Make that your Brain is uninstalled  gaelicfog@... | 12/02/04
Firefox-OK but PURGE IE  bill.washington@... | 12/01/04
"which many consider the de facto Web standard"  simonriley | 12/02/04
I gotta BAD feeling about this...  tbbrickster_z | 12/02/04
Firefox better, not great  oldbilll | 12/02/04
You've confused me?  jsjag1 | 12/03/04
Browser Wars  tiger126 | 12/04/04

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