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Just to set the record straight right from the start...
...before this forum gets set ablaze with shill apologists and troll dancers...

"A number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with a man...

...The Supremes did not condone his actions, but did make it clear that it was not "theft" -- but technically "infringement" of the copyright of the Presley estate, and therefore copyright law, and not anti-theft statutes, had to be invoked.

So "copying" is not "stealing" but can be "infringing."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07/28/copying_is_theft_and_other/

Did everyone digest that one down? Good. Now the real fun can begin!

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Just to set the record straight right from the start...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
You should know better.  Letophoro | 11/22/04
More language  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Language  Letophoro | 11/22/04
words are bricks to build a message with  hipparchus2000 | 12/04/04
Like the RIAA shills will listen...  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Calling people names will certainly win them over.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Purposefully lies does the same thing  voska | 11/22/04
No Ax, king of the pots and kettles  tic swayback | 11/22/04
This ain't Rocket Science !  realitycheck101 | 11/22/04
But...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
I'm afraid the Supreme Court doesn't agree with you...  rdwhitti | 11/22/04
LOL That's the funniest post I've hear yet  voska | 11/22/04
It's a symptom of being dropped on his head too many times.  James T. Kirk | 11/22/04
YEAHRIGHT usually does this...  Root User | 11/22/04
so I am stealing when I checkout of the library  Hanover Phist | 11/22/04
You sound confused...  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
Tech flexes its muscle  tic swayback | 11/22/04
How p2p can be a huge profit center  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Interesting  rapson | 11/22/04
Circumvention  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Not quite the same  rapson | 11/22/04
Giving incentive not to circumvent  tic swayback | 11/22/04
I hope you're right  rapson | 11/22/04
Indeed  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Wrong perspective.  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
Good for those that want to try it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Once again  Letophoro | 11/22/04
With a bit of time, that will change.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
You don't have to agree with it..  Patrick Jones | 11/22/04
Sorry you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
You really think Congress gives a hoot about this?  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
Of course they care...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
RTFA  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Keep watching tic...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Follow the money  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Possibilities and impossibilities  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Not completely  Patrick Jones | 11/22/04
Sorry you are wrong  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
Fortunately,  Letophoro | 11/22/04
True, my agreement won't happen...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Keep trying  tic swayback | 11/22/04
Lobby on if you want  AbsolutelyNot | 11/22/04
That's the silliest statement I've ever heard  voska | 11/22/04
Wanna bet?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
NET Law  tic swayback | 11/22/04
.NET law is not theft either  voska | 11/22/04
Or, quoting the other Bible  tic swayback | 11/22/04
You need to learn to DEAL WITH IT, poor Bit...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
Or change it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
You can't change glass to gold...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
Keep watching, more laws to come.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
I could care less about the next round of Nazi laws...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
More laws won't change a thing  voska | 11/22/04
You cannot win now, bitty got his crystal ball out.  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
You are not required to agree with the current law as it stands.  B.O.F.H. | 11/22/04
As I said in my reply to YEAHRIGHT  htotten | 11/22/04
The part you are debateing is from WIPO.  B.O.F.H. | 11/22/04
Good because i don't agree with it and...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Good luck  tic swayback | 11/22/04
So your goal is to...  B.O.F.H. | 11/22/04
Re: Good because i don't agree with it and...  none none | 11/22/04
Man, was I wrong  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
Overreaching again, bitty?  AmusedAtItAll | 11/22/04
Re: Once again  none none | 11/22/04
It has everything to do with fighting infringement  tic swayback | 11/22/04
As i said, thoise wishing to try are free to do so.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Yeah  Jeff Spicoli | 11/22/04
First adopters will benefit  tic swayback | 11/22/04
And the reverse too  voska | 11/22/04
taking property from someone..??  hipparchus2000 | 12/04/04
The good news...  Anton Philidor | 11/22/04
The computer industry must tread very lightly here.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/04
Bug bites man... man returns later and wipes out whole nest  Xunil_Sierutuf | 11/22/04
The saddest part of the article  Chad_z | 11/22/04
sick isn't it  JasonL31 | 11/23/04
An excellent opinion article on copyright law in general  AbsolutelyNot | 11/22/04
If copyright laws were overhauled...  Anton Philidor | 11/22/04
You're assuming that Hatch's "INDUCE Act" is the only choice  AbsolutelyNot | 11/22/04
He's right though  tic swayback | 11/22/04
A quesiton about Libraries  Hanover Phist | 11/22/04
No.  htotten | 11/22/04
So P2P charge money for holding the materials?  Hanover Phist | 11/22/04
Plagiarism  htotten | 11/22/04
Plagiarism  voska | 11/23/04
explain then  tamuhockey | 11/22/04
Good point, but....  htotten | 11/22/04
lets explore this further  tamuhockey | 11/22/04
Not necessarily  htotten | 11/22/04
But....  tamuhockey | 11/22/04
You're splitting hairs here  voska | 11/23/04
Holding question  AbsolutelyNot | 11/22/04
Fees  htotten | 11/22/04
An example of what can be called "inducement"  AbsolutelyNot | 11/22/04
Yeahright I Agree....Sort of....  htotten | 11/22/04
Libraries are specifically exempted  tic swayback | 11/22/04
LIBRARIES, but not the patrons  AbsolutelyNot | 11/26/04
Sticky Situation  ParadigmOdyssey | 11/23/04
Ain't suing nobody in Brazil, France, Germany, Korea, Tawian happy  GreatInca | 11/23/04

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