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But I live there too...
1. I live in New York, and haven't seen a bar or restaurant close (left or right) since 9/11... at least not because smokers are coming in. I'm sure there is one out there, I just haven't seen it.
2. Inhaling fumes for a car exhaust is not as bad sucking the fumes from the pipe, BUT IT'S STILL BAD FOR YOU.
3. Liquor, contrary to some beliefs, if you drink in moderation, there should be no adverse affects. Some scientist say a glass of wine a day is good for people. I'm pretty sure that second hand liquor is okay. There really is no positive effects of smoke. I must admit that an excess of liquor will probably lead to a quicker death somewhere along the way . I don't know if I would say liquor is FAAARRR worse, or FAARRR better, unless I could actually prove it.
How would someone compare the two? Price wise?
Weight Wise?
If a person drinks one drink, is that like a pack of cigarettes, or 1 cigarette.
Though, it would be a good study to show how many people die from liquor versus smoke.
3. I know many smokers who like the smoking ban also. Granted I'm sure most smokers hate it, but I really don't know that many.
4. While NY is colder than California, 7-8 months where it's too cold. Hmmm, Which months would that be..
Oct., Nov., Dec., Jan. Feb, Mar. Apr. May. I know I was talking a nice walk last Sunday, and I'm pretty sure April is spring like.
I must admit that it might be better for smokers if there was some alternative in the winter months (I consider that Dec, Jan, Feb), and I sympathize, but, HEY, I didn't make the choice to smoke. So, if you want me to go outside while and keep the smokers inside, no thanks. I'd rather hang out it a parking garage.
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Guess this refutes Anton's  Linux User 147560 | 11/17/04
That was always a baseless weak argument..  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Obviously. you are a smoker...  balsover | 11/17/04
Actually I've never smoked..  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Banning smoking does not hurt business  balsover | 11/17/04
Maybe not where you live..  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
But I live there too...  el1jones | 11/17/04
Recent court case in Connecticut  Anton Philidor | 11/17/04
Reason...  Martin Marvinski | 11/17/04
they should ban that horrible smelling alcohol stuff  hipparchus2000 | 11/17/04
your free to go to a smoke free place  JasonL31 | 11/18/04
Now HOLD on there.... Here are some Studies  el1jones | 11/17/04
They do keep trying, don't they?!  Anton Philidor | 11/17/04
For once you make complete sense  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Correction.  Anton Philidor | 11/17/04
Second hand smoke is harmful  voska | 11/17/04
Odds to consider.  Anton Philidor | 11/17/04
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Japan's not a good example for your case.  Anton Philidor | 11/17/04
Nicotine...beneficial? kind a like cocaine is beneficial....  el1jones | 11/17/04
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Wrong again, Jeff..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Some thing to back this up?...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Sure..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Faulty, faulty, faulty  AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04
Errr..baseless?  vdraken | 11/17/04
Not really...  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Well...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Re: Well..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Did you actually think before you posted?  AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04
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Yes, actually..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
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How so..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
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Interesting..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
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I know what Mike's all about  Eggs Ackley_z | 11/18/04
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Thanks Mike  Roger Ramjet | 11/17/04
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My only FireFox complaint...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/04
Define "properly"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/17/04
No side scoll...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/04
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Yeah, but how many web pages are so large that they need to be scrolled...  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
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Probably the most least used feature out there!  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
I don't think Ax is serious  Squawkbox | 11/17/04
Yes I am serious.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/04
I am pretty sure that...  eulagree | 11/17/04
Oh really?  d_jedi | 11/17/04
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Logitech...  Martin Marvinski | 11/17/04
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Hey Ax...........Ok you were serious  Squawkbox | 11/17/04
As i said...This is my ONLY complaint.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/17/04
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.. eventually..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Just use F6 instead..  Jeff Spicoli | 11/17/04
Well..  d_jedi | 11/17/04
Anytime ma man..  Jeff Spicoli | 11/18/04
Have you tried XScroll?  eulagree | 11/17/04
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Firefox  hipco1 | 11/18/04
about mouses  waltv79 | 11/19/04

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