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Not necessarily in a capitalistic society...
In a capitalistic society, suppliers do not get to arbitrarily set the price of goods sold. They can TRY to do that, but the final price of the good is determined by whatever the market decides. So no, I do not believe that a supplier (even as the "owner") has any moral right to completely set the terms of the sale (which includes the price).

Some might argue that copyright is not supposed to be monopolistic, not capitalistic. Unfortunately, this argument falls flat because everyone (the market) recognizes that the scarcity created by Copyright Law is artificial. While basic economics is too simplistic to model what happens in real life, it is basically true that when a substitute is available for a good, then the price of the good goes down.

In this case, a perfect substitute is available-- a pirated movie for a lesser price in place of an original movie for a higher price. In fact, the pirated movie may be far more attractive than the legitimate good because a pirated movie may not have DRM or other onerous restrictive technology. The potential customer has the choice to purchase the real thing or download an illegal copy.

While "morality" and "legality" might affect the cost of goods and elasticity, I do not believe that they play much of a role in economic behavior. Legal or not, moral or not, if a cheap and convenient substitute is available then people WILL take it. Those riding white horses can yell "thief" and "no fair" until they're blue in the face, but it won't make a difference. True capitalism doesn't exist in this world (because powers that be always try to manipulate the market itself and there is no perfect market). But capitalistic behavior has been a darn good model thus far.

A "take it or leave it" model basically assumes that (1) the seller can dictate whatever terms, and (2) the buyer only has two options-- accept all the terms and take it, or reject the terms and leave it. Unfortunately for content owners, I believe this model is unsustainable and cannot exist for intellectual property.

Why? Because the marginal cost of creating a copy (a perfect substitute) is almost zero. There is never any reason for a buyer to accept terms from a seller (especially onerous terms) when he or she can make or obtain a near perfect copy for free. Sellers are competing with free. This doesn't mean that they can't make money (for example, look at bottled water), but it does mean that sellers cannot arbitrarily set any terms of sale, even if they are legally entitled to do so.

Others may not have the right to demand that you sell them your home for $5, but if they want your home, and can find a convenient way of duplicating your home for $5 without taking away any part of your home in the process, then some (most) of those guys will do it whether you like it or not, or whether the law says they are entitled or not.

Cheers!
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Hang em high !  realitycheck101 | 11/04/04
Hmm..  d_jedi | 11/04/04
Not likely  James T. Kirk | 11/05/04
iTunes for movies and TV shows  stanleymwc@... | 11/04/04
Already out there  AbsolutelyNot | 11/08/04
This was to be expected  d_jedi | 11/04/04
Many so-called pirates are people simply looking for choice and convenience  sishio | 11/05/04
If you can't get it legally then wait.  htotten | 11/05/04
The point is they're missing a market  Erik1234 | 11/05/04
As the OWNERS, isn't that their choice?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/05/04
Not necessarily in a capitalistic society...  Root User | 11/05/04
I do have that right to demand you sell me your goods my price  voska | 11/05/04
Just because it's their right doesn't mean it's intelligent  Erik1234 | 11/05/04
Market price  AbsolutelyNot | 11/08/04
You have a point..  d_jedi | 11/05/04
My brother pirates movies  voska | 11/05/04
You'd bet wrong  AbsolutelyNot | 11/08/04
Piracy is the remedy to price fixing  Mectron | 11/04/04
What a load of BS  d_jedi | 11/05/04
It's true  voska | 11/05/04
If you only want to "risk" $10..  d_jedi | 11/05/04
That increases the price  voska | 11/05/04
Try risking a $100 million and make your own movie then.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/05/04
Are you just posting random insults?  voska | 11/05/04
No one is forcing movie makers to spend $100 million  Root User | 11/05/04
If the RIAA got sacked for price fixing  AbsolutelyNot | 11/08/04
now you are talking  pinback_z | 11/05/04
Piracy (theft) is the way to the poor house.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/05/04
download quality stinks  pinback_z | 11/05/04
you can get DVD quality downloads  voska | 11/05/04
Never seen one  Roger Ramjet | 11/05/04
I'm not sure where people get them  voska | 11/05/04
Hollywood itself is a hippocritical pirate!  Root User | 11/05/04
A good move and one that everyone should understand.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/05/04
Actually  James T. Kirk | 11/05/04
Thieves will always pick "free".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/05/04
bah you again  M_c | 11/05/04
Not quite sure what you wrote there  voska | 11/05/04
sorry about that  M_c | 11/05/04
(nt) Use a grammar checker, please..  d_jedi | 11/05/04
(nt) I agree..  d_jedi | 11/05/04
DVD's were a good or better deal  voska | 11/05/04
YES , to more movie services  dennis_44149 | 11/08/04

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