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RE: Does following standards help or hurt?
I really think that you are missing the point of using IE or another browser. Particularly when you are talking about HTML. Microsoft uses non-standard HTML commands or extrastandard items as you have said. Therefore, you must be writing more to incorporate them into a web page. By REMOVING the non-standard items, you make web pages that are compatible with all browsers that are designed to use the current standard. This equates to less time spent designing each web page.

BTW I use Firefox primarily because of the vulnerabilities of IE that are so well known, and as a Software Engineer, I find that M$ software, particularly IE are just not up to the job anymore that I require from them. When it comes to viewing web sites, I have found a few that are written for IE only, and so far as viewing is concerned it was horrific. So I went and looked at the source of the page, comparing it with standard HTML, and found that most of it was fine, with only a few M$ commands. So what conclusion can you draw from that? Is it the M$ extras that cause most problems? OR Is it that some web page designers and writers simply cannot put together a decent page or site?

Basically I am quite satisfied that your assertion "Someone deciding not to be IE-only is accepting more work for less result" is incorrect. Adding extra or non-standard extensions to code increases the complexity, whether you are talking about web pages, or software, so that in the long term you are going to pay the price of having easily exploited vulnerabilities. Unless you are TOTALLY into using IE as your browser, and you like having a vulnerable computer because of it, I would heartilly recommend that it is time to seriously consider using another browser.
Posted by: RealAusTech   Posted on: 11/02/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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I am curious  Squawkbox | 11/01/04
Study: Firefox still gaining on Internet Explorer  Loverock Davidson | 11/01/04
A flash pan?  Linux User 147560 | 11/01/04
Load of crap, Mosaic still rulez  FilledOut | 11/02/04
If so...  htotten | 11/02/04
Here ya go..... Google IS your friend BTW  Squawkbox | 11/02/04
XP???  dennisling@... | 11/02/04
Yes... But OS 98 & 98SE  Freebro | 11/02/04
Heretic!!  Robert Crocker | 11/02/04
Charlotte!  wresnick | 11/03/04
back in the real world.....woah watch out for that flying pig  hipparchus2000 | 11/02/04
Security at last!  wresnick | 11/03/04
Seems to me that Microsoft...  voska | 11/02/04
Stand By  bitsbucket | 11/02/04
Small circles and large.  Anton Philidor | 11/02/04
What? A thoughtful analysis? Thanks.  Sunny Jalolly | 11/02/04
Re: Small circles and large  alterego_z | 11/02/04
Does following standards help or hurt?  Anton Philidor | 11/02/04
NOT TRUE  xshakes | 11/02/04
Re: Does following standards help or hurt?  alterego_z | 11/02/04
Largely irrelevant  IT_User | 11/02/04
Neverthess  John L. Ries | 11/02/04
Point for discussion, not an assertion of mine.  Anton Philidor | 11/02/04
How to respond?  IT_User | 11/02/04
You did assert, though,,,  John L. Ries | 11/02/04
"most users"  Anton Philidor | 11/03/04
Anton, John did not say 'most users'...  The King's Servant | 11/03/04
RE: Does following standards help or hurt?  RealAusTech | 11/02/04
Backasswards...You are....As always..at least from my POV.  LazLong | 11/02/04
Yahoo is a bad example.  Joel R | 11/03/04
An EXTREMELY impressive demonstration of the value of Web standards  Joel R | 11/03/04
Ah butt Anton..progress is still progress  Laff | 11/02/04
Look at the numbers  tic swayback | 11/02/04
Oddities in the numbers.  Anton Philidor | 11/02/04
Agreed  tic swayback | 11/02/04
Netscape  Arnohamel | 11/03/04
You don't say.....  Gosu | 11/02/04
How Firefox reaches the technically hopeless  Cat Ketch | 11/05/04
Wow such numbers!  IT_User | 11/02/04
Question  John L. Ries | 11/02/04
And a good one  IT_User | 11/02/04
Write to the standards, not for IE only.  spencerlmp | 11/02/04
Whoa, did you read the thread?  IT_User | 11/02/04
Thanks for the answer  John L. Ries | 11/02/04
Web Statistics or "The Emperor has no clothes"  tree_z | 11/02/04
Certainly one of the imponderables  IT_User | 11/03/04
See my "Yahoo is a bad example" post above...  Joel R | 11/04/04
Firefox  dennisling@... | 11/02/04
great browser  sawer | 11/02/04
A wonderful surprise  barb@... | 11/02/04
Firefox  Gosu | 11/02/04
That is really silly  LazLong | 11/02/04
Train 3000 people?  wetdog | 11/02/04
So I went to my COO (my immediate boss)  The King's Servant | 11/03/04
Firefox? Yes, but...  NukeSubs | 11/03/04
Yes, but what?  GuidoMuldoon | 11/03/04
Call and complain to you bank, worked for me  voska | 11/03/04
Then change and install IEView.  The King's Servant | 11/03/04
Better yet, install Launchy.  Joel R | 11/04/04
Unbelievable  derekgore | 11/03/04
Absolutely unbelievable...  The King's Servant | 11/03/04
Yes, the Mac is not immune.  Joel R | 11/04/04
COMAlite J  derekgore | 11/04/04
A history lesson  derekgore | 11/04/04
Poor post  derekgore | 11/04/04
About to give up on Firefox...  rdwhitti | 11/03/04
About to give up on Firefox... Why?  opensource@... | 11/03/04
Look at the Firefox forum on Mozilla.org  rdwhitti | 11/03/04
This is a good thing  DarthRidiculous | 11/03/04
Firefox  jonjon1946@... | 11/04/04
Firefox  jonjon1946@... | 11/04/04
firefox  jonjon1946@... | 11/04/04
firefox  droiddoc | 11/05/04
Some XML applications will nor work!  saul@... | 11/09/04
"Firefox is rubbish mate"  benso | 11/11/04
Apology re my earlier post  benso | 11/14/04

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