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Consider the EFFECT OF THE WIDER PRECEDENT!
"Let me spell it out.
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Step AWAY from the MP3 issue for ONE second and consider the EFFECT OF THE WIDER PRECEDENT!"

Ok... Let's do just that. In wrongful death, the plaintiff knows the identity of the defendant. In cases like the one from this article, the plaintiff is trying to discover the defendant(s) in order to pursue the equivalent of a wrongful death case. I.e. the two scenarios are fundamentally different.

"what happens when THAT PRECEDENT is applied to a guy killed by the negligence of another individual?"

Nothing changes. Currently, even in the US, no officer or agency is required to divulge any info leading to a civil trial. What these copyright owners are doing is roughly equivalent to running up to a cop and asking for help finding the person who just slapped you in the back of the head when you don't even have clue #1 about what that person looked like, or even what gender!

It'd be an entirely different story if the copyright owners already knew the identities of the people infringing. That would be much more in-line with the wrongful death analogy.


The family now has NO RIGHT to know the identiy of the perpetrator? HOW do they sue
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What the ???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
EU is right  Linux Geek | 01/29/08
Nice dodge on what I said.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
I'd expect a criminal...  BFD | 01/29/08
Your misunderstanding  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
I agree, and I think no_ax has dodged  Mahegan | 01/30/08
Are you all kidding or what?  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
Wrongful death by MP3?  tikigawd | 01/30/08
The fact that you don't seem to understand the difference...  kingmph@... | 01/30/08
The Point is . . .  JLHenry | 01/31/08
Hey M@R@N !!!  blaze1024 | 01/31/08
Good point.  Mephysto | 01/31/08
The Consitution does NOT guarantee "privacy"  NeverLift | 01/30/08
wrong  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
You can't really be this stupid, can you?  B.O.F.H. | 01/29/08
You did read the article right?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
You should learn the difference between civil and criminal law!  B.O.F.H. | 01/29/08
Reading is fundemental...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
LOL... so is spelling, dude.  James T. Kirk | 01/29/08
You sound like a Ron Paul backer  jrbeaman | 01/30/08
he said "wrongful death"  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
No, it doesn't.  JLHenry | 01/31/08
Sadly...  IT_Guy_z | 01/29/08
When you have nothing to say, make insults  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
He is related to you?  B.O.F.H. | 01/29/08
Irony lives on  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
Some important reading for you. No Axe  ben.rattigan | 01/31/08
NoAxe won't read  nizuse | 02/01/08
Hear, hear! (NT)  WiredGuy | 01/31/08
Well, no...  James T. Kirk | 01/29/08
Good point  voska1 | 01/29/08
A civil case is a civil case???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
Wow  BlackDiamond | 01/30/08
Wow!  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
Consider the EFFECT OF THE WIDER PRECEDENT!  kingmph@... | 01/30/08
Wow II  BlackDiamond | 01/31/08
Wronful death is. . . .  JLHenry | 01/31/08
You really don't have a clue  ben.rattigan | 01/31/08
Eu as very right to make law and apply then as they see fit  Quebec-french | 01/29/08
Obviously true, situational application of "law"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/08
wrong!  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
Hey no axe its not because other see things differently  Quebec-french | 01/29/08
Au cours de ces discussions  Mahegan | 01/30/08
"EU sovereignty"?  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
What do you EXPECT from a willfully stupid Bushl Nazi MSFT Bigot like No_A  drprodny | 01/30/08
Wait.. huh?  tikigawd | 01/30/08
Re: What the ???  none none | 01/29/08
big leap  egilbert@... | 01/30/08
[scarcasm]The EU is great[/scarcasm]  LeeC | 01/30/08
UK case  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
Daily Mail?  ben.rattigan | 01/31/08
Make us all think in metric  a_wellstead@... | 01/31/08
Nothing  ben.rattigan | 01/31/08
Spoken like  n00b-herder | 01/30/08
I'll Reply  ben.rattigan | 01/31/08
No need to worry Axe  nizuse | 02/01/08
Rights of the individual  roberto_maietta@... | 01/29/08
This should be apply worldwide  Mectron | 01/29/08
Americans are going to learn to serve Europeans and other foreigners ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
A bit pessimist here  Quebec-french | 01/29/08
The Dollar is the key to much of America's dominance in the world ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
I'm just curious  Shelendrea | 01/29/08
I live in the USA ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
hmmm  Shelendrea | 01/29/08
I don't disagree with you on that at all ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
Exactly so  Mahegan | 01/30/08
Some confusion about national debts  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
Other than another 5 paragraph dissertation...  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
I agree  Mahegan | 01/30/08
what are you telling us?  Linux Geek | 01/29/08
Because they are elected  Linux User 147560 | 01/30/08
You seem thrilled by that...  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 01/31/08
In other words . . .  JLHenry | 01/31/08
Don't bet on that . . .  JLHenry | 01/31/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 02/01/08
Look. The Stephen King of economics  GuidingLight | 01/29/08
So what part is fiction?  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
In a democracy  Mahegan | 01/30/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 01/31/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 01/31/08
No fiction there, I'm afraid. Year after year with a new  hkommedal | 01/29/08
the worst part is  Quebec-french | 01/30/08
We are in a world economy now  jrbeaman | 01/30/08
We are in a tied world  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
Which is a GOOD thing . . .  JLHenry | 01/31/08
Close, but you forget...  jrbeaman | 01/30/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 01/30/08
I agree  Mahegan | 01/30/08
Interesting  Shelendrea | 01/29/08
Re: Interesting  none none | 01/29/08
Murder and File sharing are two different things  Shelendrea | 01/29/08
Lets think this through ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
And why does that make any sense?  lneves | 01/31/08
Yes. MUCH less burden of proof in a civil case.  hkommedal | 01/29/08
You are right  legalista | 01/30/08
You and I  djchandler | 01/30/08
Most music is owned by foreign companies  terry flores | 01/29/08
This is about more than just music ...  George Mitchell | 01/29/08
IP Doesn't Exist  TheGooch1 | 01/30/08
Guess U2 will have to file criminal charges  Boot_Agnostic | 01/30/08
Yup.  jrbeaman | 01/30/08
So ... as a songwriter  david@... | 01/30/08
Maybe songwriters  Mahegan | 01/30/08
Really?  LeeC | 01/30/08
As an employee, my IP  Mahegan | 01/30/08
RE: EU court: File sharers don't have to be named  Dr.C | 01/30/08
Unfortunately, that isn't what happens  NeverLift | 01/30/08
Civil vs Criminal.....about time...  bluegil | 01/30/08
Too bad we can sign up with an ISP "located" in the EU.  NeverLift | 01/30/08
Typo: Read "can't sign up", not "can"  NeverLift | 01/30/08
A typo, really?  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
Ahah! Now it makes sense  legalista | 01/30/08
It is a mixture of civil and criminal law in Australia  Mahegan | 01/30/08
infringement is not an intrusion  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
very true  PhilippeV | 01/30/08
The laws need an overhaul  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
listen to yourself....  sjaaxken | 01/31/08
Actually,  legalista | 01/30/08
RIAA wants free legals  Mahegan | 01/30/08
Oh wow...  mlambert890@... | 01/30/08
Wrongful death  Mahegan | 01/30/08
What EU says is  Thore | 01/30/08
RE: EU court: File sharers don't have to be named  djchandler | 01/30/08
RE: EU court: File sharers don't have to be named  djchandler | 01/30/08
Sorry!  djchandler | 01/30/08
3 cheers for the EU  billjacobus1 | 01/30/08
The problem is the music industry and  Boot_Agnostic | 01/31/08
It's about dam time  blaze1024 | 01/31/08
Good point.  Mephysto | 01/31/08
We'll never know who wrote the software  BALTHOR | 01/31/08

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