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These are all clips of music and videos, nothing complete. Kazza & Napster were about comeplete, songs, CD's (Images), Movies, DVD's. That is like night & day. Thinks about it!
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Expected  Boot_Agnostic | 03/13/07
Catch 22, YouTube is a looser.  supercharlie | 03/13/07
With that theory  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
Case history  glocks out | 03/13/07
Sorry but you are wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Big difference  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
Kazza and Napster made the same claims  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
I would laugh to  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
The Digital Mafia in action  Mectron | 03/13/07
You can't transcode copyrighted material  radolan@... | 03/13/07
Medium Claptrap  brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
No  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
Oh Not They're Not!  brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
Intent is key here in the US  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
No freedom of speach issue here  theoldman59 | 03/13/07
I'd have more sympathy for Viacom if  Mahegan | 03/13/07
i dont get it  usrhlp | 03/16/07
YouTube is not a chooser.  MarBrock | 03/27/07
Viacom sues Google over YouTube clips  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
Why do you think this is a "botch up"?  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Because its Google!  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
Because it's L.D.  Intellihence | 03/13/07
I don't know about that  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Ovrerated, Overvalued  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
You have an ax to grind or something?  -Kestrel- | 03/13/07
Seems to me...  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Seems you are wrong  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
What makes you think...  tic swayback | 03/13/07
In case...  zkiwi | 03/13/07
They did  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
Sorry, LD, that's not proof.  Zeppo9191 | 03/13/07
What's your choice...  bchesmer | 03/13/07
Good news either way  tic swayback | 03/13/07
I must be missing something...  flatliner | 03/13/07
Good question  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Simple!  bchesmer | 03/13/07
I see neither...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Let's wait and see what the court says  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Safe Harbor laws will not apply.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
I agree  voska | 03/13/07
But they will pay out, or will make a deal on proceeds.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
In Civil court  voska | 03/13/07
Yes they do.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
You may well be right  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Something will give.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
Two lines of text or an image  voska | 03/13/07
You would be suprised.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
Questions that raises  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Applies to all search engines.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
How will things work then?  tic swayback | 03/14/07
Not as bad as you think.  osreinstall | 03/14/07
That would be horribly useless  tic swayback | 03/14/07
Maybe for you it would be.  osreinstall | 03/14/07
why start with Google?  Linux Geek | 03/13/07
Shut. Up. FOOL.  James T. Kirk | 03/13/07
That's amazing  ubaz2 | 03/13/07
Ludicrous  EndUserMike | 03/13/07
Workers  Bucky24 | 03/13/07
FINALLY!  John Zern | 03/13/07
you din't get a subtle difference  Linux Geek | 03/13/07
You are truly blind  EndUserMike | 03/13/07
So this is what happens when your Momma drops you often on your head.  osreinstall | 03/13/07
That sir, is an insult to children who were dropped on their heads.  James T. Kirk | 03/14/07
Most of them grow out of it.  osreinstall | 03/14/07
The real answer  cymru999 | 03/13/07
Imorral  voska | 03/13/07
Cistine Chapel Ceiling Copies Flood Market  brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
Artist's work  dingers412@... | 03/13/07
Cistine Chapel Ceiling Copies Flood Market  windozefreak | 03/13/07
Creativity of Performance  dcmorrow | 03/13/07
Spelling  dcmorrow | 03/13/07
I agree  voska | 03/13/07
The real, real answer  comandrj0 | 03/13/07
Viacom Should lose this  voska | 03/13/07
Look at it from the Corporate Perspective  Tifferzzz@... | 03/13/07
Google is your friend  Bugbyte | 03/13/07
Isn't it convenient?...  stephenlposey@... | 03/13/07
Who's making money here?  John Zern | 03/13/07
Sure I'd be upset  voska | 03/13/07
It does, as the operative word here is...  John Zern | 03/13/07
very Low Quality  Mectron | 03/13/07
Here's the problem  voska | 03/13/07
Read the plaitiff's deposition  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Not a chance  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
With that thinking  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
That's a big assumption  voska | 03/13/07
If Viacom Can Think  jwoods@... | 03/13/07
Why you are wrong...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Huh? A 320x320 picture vs. a full-size TV pic "destroys"?  chas_2 | 03/13/07
That's really not thinking it through  doodlius | 03/13/07
IIRC  Patrick Jones | 03/13/07
Viacom's right to be stupid  voska | 03/13/07
How about compromising pictures of us?  John Zern | 03/13/07
They should sue AOL then too  angarone@... | 03/13/07
No need to trim the tree  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
AOL pays license fees  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Content comes from YouTube's servers  PB_z | 03/13/07
Outcome  glocks out | 03/13/07
That sound was the other shoe hitting the floor  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Yeah....  James T. Kirk | 03/13/07
And sets precedence  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Could be major trouble  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Search engines should be fine  John Zern | 03/13/07
Sorry, no, that doesn't work  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Search  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Copyright is copyright  tic swayback | 03/13/07
A Belgium court disagrees with you  voska | 03/13/07
YouTube has not violated any copyrights  geogyj@... | 03/13/07
build on greed, not on common sence  dirtfarmer | 03/13/07
Sorry but you are wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
However,  Patrick Jones | 03/13/07
I have to disagree  voska | 03/13/07
Fair Use  Dragon77 | 03/13/07
Nope...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Do you really think.......  bergmystr | 03/13/07
Depends: Pay per View or Broadcast  voska | 03/13/07
You are correct..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
You bet  voska | 03/13/07
Yes, in fact they do  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Pull back the Soap Box  bergmystr | 03/13/07
No, keep the soap box where it is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
You have fair use wrong  voska | 03/13/07
Not fair use  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Fair Use  Dragon77 | 03/13/07
Sorry, but you are still DEAD WRONG  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Corporations  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
PLEASE...  him87 | 03/13/07
Double please  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Spelling smelling!  voska | 03/13/07
I've goofed there too  voska | 03/13/07
Viacom  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
What do gov. grants have to do with anything?  John Zern | 03/13/07
Grants  voska | 03/13/07
You folks don't get it - this isn't about DMCA, it's about Copyright.  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
DMCA - ISP loophole  paisleyamoeba | 03/13/07
Commercial Venture  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
It's not just ISPs  Edward Meyers | 03/13/07
Safe Harbor  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Safe Harbour shouldn't apply  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Where does it say that?  tic swayback | 03/13/07
Seems like I remember  Azathoth | 03/13/07
Viacarious liability  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Copyright holders properly police copyrights  MarBrock | 03/27/07
Corporations  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
Cprporations pay  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Sure, why not?  voska | 03/13/07
Because the  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
For a huge sum of money  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Bad comparison  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Short sighted  psyph3r@... | 03/13/07
Copies  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
WTF ...  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Well. you have proven you are clueless...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Right ON  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Free Advertising for Viacom and others  leadmare@... | 03/13/07
Where you went wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
I fail to see the difference  voska | 03/13/07
Ok, let me try and explain  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
The so-called Tragedy of the Commons  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Seceede  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
Doesn't matter at all  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Maybe  ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
Not going to happen  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Viacom  doldham@... | 03/13/07
And Well You Say  Ole Man | 03/13/07
Is this illegal?  Kritzer | 03/13/07
You start breaking the law at 2  voska | 03/13/07
Is this illegal? YES?  thomas_digney@... | 03/14/07
Fundamentally assumptive:  him87 | 03/13/07
Fundamentally assumptive:  him87 | 03/13/07
Assumptions....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Go after the Riders, not he Vehicle  wrolle | 03/13/07
That too will come...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Madness  Narg | 03/13/07
Is this illegal?  Kritzer | 03/13/07
Sorry  Kritzer | 03/13/07
In simplest terms  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
Viacom sues google  mcclung@... | 03/13/07
Opinions  DemonX | 03/13/07
Viacom's a big crybaby  chas_2 | 03/13/07
Pffftt... Wrong on every count  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
Missing the real point  voska | 03/13/07
Where you ae wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
That's not how Viacom sees it  voska | 03/13/07
Best writeup found  Timpraetor | 03/13/07
404 on the URL good buddy  Mahegan | 03/13/07
Your right in the free speech issue but..  botaknee@... | 03/13/07
stop crying.....  bgonetoo | 03/13/07
Big bucks for Viacom  vger_z | 03/13/07
The Next Sound  ishelton@... | 03/13/07
I predicted this....  linux for me | 03/13/07
BlAh BlAh  whoop_123 | 03/13/07
Damn!  epcraig | 03/13/07
New name for the company: YouBoob  ssybesma | 03/13/07
YouBoob not well-conceived  ssybesma | 03/13/07
A very descriptive argument  Ole Man | 03/14/07
That is as dopey as dopey gets  ssybesma | 03/14/07
It is like the Wild Wild West  Bagleym@... | 03/13/07
Viacom vs Google  Big Al Jano | 03/13/07
You Can't Sue the Toolmaker  IQ9 | 03/14/07
Other toolmakers thought wrong in the past.  osreinstall | 03/15/07
Well Sue the Human race  kmyat | 03/16/07

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