Expected
Boot_Agnostic | 03/13/07
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Catch 22, YouTube is a looser.
supercharlie | 03/13/07
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With that theory
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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Case history
glocks out | 03/13/07
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Sorry but you are wrong
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Big difference
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
|
   
Kazza and Napster made the same claims
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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I would laugh to
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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The Digital Mafia in action
Mectron | 03/13/07
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You can't transcode copyrighted material
radolan@... | 03/13/07
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Medium Claptrap
brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
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No
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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Oh Not They're Not!
brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
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Intent is key here in the US
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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No freedom of speach issue here
theoldman59 | 03/13/07
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I'd have more sympathy for Viacom if
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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i dont get it
usrhlp | 03/16/07
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YouTube is not a chooser.
MarBrock | 03/27/07
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Viacom sues Google over YouTube clips
Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
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Why do you think this is a "botch up"?
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Because its Google!
Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
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Because it's L.D.
Intellihence | 03/13/07
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I don't know about that
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Ovrerated, Overvalued
Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
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You have an ax to grind or something?
-Kestrel- | 03/13/07
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Seems to me...
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Seems you are wrong
Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
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What makes you think...
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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In case...
zkiwi | 03/13/07
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They did
Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
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Sorry, LD, that's not proof.
Zeppo9191 | 03/13/07
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What's your choice...
bchesmer | 03/13/07
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Good news either way
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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I must be missing something...
flatliner | 03/13/07
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Good question
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Simple!
bchesmer | 03/13/07
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I see neither...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Let's wait and see what the court says
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Safe Harbor laws will not apply.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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I agree
voska | 03/13/07
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But they will pay out, or will make a deal on proceeds.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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In Civil court
voska | 03/13/07
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Yes they do.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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You may well be right
tic swayback | 03/13/07
|
  
Something will give.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
|
   
Two lines of text or an image
voska | 03/13/07
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You would be suprised.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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Questions that raises
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Applies to all search engines.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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How will things work then?
tic swayback | 03/14/07
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Not as bad as you think.
osreinstall | 03/14/07
|
     
That would be horribly useless
tic swayback | 03/14/07
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Maybe for you it would be.
osreinstall | 03/14/07
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why start with Google?
Linux Geek | 03/13/07
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Shut. Up. FOOL.
James T. Kirk | 03/13/07
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That's amazing
ubaz2 | 03/13/07
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Ludicrous
EndUserMike | 03/13/07
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Workers
Bucky24 | 03/13/07
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FINALLY!
John Zern | 03/13/07
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you din't get a subtle difference
Linux Geek | 03/13/07
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You are truly blind
EndUserMike | 03/13/07
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So this is what happens when your Momma drops you often on your head.
osreinstall | 03/13/07
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That sir, is an insult to children who were dropped on their heads.
James T. Kirk | 03/14/07
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Most of them grow out of it.
osreinstall | 03/14/07
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The real answer
cymru999 | 03/13/07
|

Imorral
voska | 03/13/07
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Cistine Chapel Ceiling Copies Flood Market
brian.smith@... | 03/13/07
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Artist's work
dingers412@... | 03/13/07
|
 
Cistine Chapel Ceiling Copies Flood Market
windozefreak | 03/13/07
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Creativity of Performance
dcmorrow | 03/13/07
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Spelling
dcmorrow | 03/13/07
|
  
I agree
voska | 03/13/07
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The real, real answer
comandrj0 | 03/13/07
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Viacom Should lose this
voska | 03/13/07
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Look at it from the Corporate Perspective
Tifferzzz@... | 03/13/07
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Google is your friend
Bugbyte | 03/13/07
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Isn't it convenient?...
stephenlposey@... | 03/13/07
|
  
Who's making money here?
John Zern | 03/13/07
|
   
Sure I'd be upset
voska | 03/13/07
|
    
It does, as the operative word here is...
John Zern | 03/13/07
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very Low Quality
Mectron | 03/13/07
|
  
Here's the problem
voska | 03/13/07
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Read the plaitiff's deposition
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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Not a chance
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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With that thinking
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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That's a big assumption
voska | 03/13/07
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If Viacom Can Think
jwoods@... | 03/13/07
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Why you are wrong...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Huh? A 320x320 picture vs. a full-size TV pic "destroys"?
chas_2 | 03/13/07
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That's really not thinking it through
doodlius | 03/13/07
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IIRC
Patrick Jones | 03/13/07
|
  
Viacom's right to be stupid
voska | 03/13/07
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How about compromising pictures of us?
John Zern | 03/13/07
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They should sue AOL then too
angarone@... | 03/13/07
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No need to trim the tree
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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AOL pays license fees
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
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Content comes from YouTube's servers
PB_z | 03/13/07
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Outcome
glocks out | 03/13/07
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That sound was the other shoe hitting the floor
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Yeah....
James T. Kirk | 03/13/07
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And sets precedence
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
  
Could be major trouble
tic swayback | 03/13/07
|
   
Search engines should be fine
John Zern | 03/13/07
|
    
Sorry, no, that doesn't work
tic swayback | 03/13/07
|
   
Search
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
    
Copyright is copyright
tic swayback | 03/13/07
|
    
A Belgium court disagrees with you
voska | 03/13/07
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YouTube has not violated any copyrights
geogyj@... | 03/13/07
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build on greed, not on common sence
dirtfarmer | 03/13/07
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Sorry but you are wrong
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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However,
Patrick Jones | 03/13/07
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I have to disagree
voska | 03/13/07
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Fair Use
Dragon77 | 03/13/07
|

Nope...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Do you really think.......
bergmystr | 03/13/07
|
  
Depends: Pay per View or Broadcast
voska | 03/13/07
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You are correct..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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You bet
voska | 03/13/07
|
  
Yes, in fact they do
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
   
Pull back the Soap Box
bergmystr | 03/13/07
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No, keep the soap box where it is.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
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You have fair use wrong
voska | 03/13/07
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Not fair use
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
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Fair Use
Dragon77 | 03/13/07
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Sorry, but you are still DEAD WRONG
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Corporations
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
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PLEASE...
him87 | 03/13/07
|

Double please
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Spelling smelling!
voska | 03/13/07
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I've goofed there too
voska | 03/13/07
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Viacom
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
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Say what?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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What do gov. grants have to do with anything?
John Zern | 03/13/07
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Grants
voska | 03/13/07
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You folks don't get it - this isn't about DMCA, it's about Copyright.
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
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DMCA - ISP loophole
paisleyamoeba | 03/13/07
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Commercial Venture
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
|
  
It's not just ISPs
Edward Meyers | 03/13/07
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Safe Harbor
tic swayback | 03/13/07
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Safe Harbour shouldn't apply
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
|
  
Where does it say that?
tic swayback | 03/13/07
|

Seems like I remember
Azathoth | 03/13/07
|
 
Viacarious liability
Mahegan | 03/13/07
|

Copyright holders properly police copyrights
MarBrock | 03/27/07
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Corporations
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
|

Cprporations pay
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
 
Sure, why not?
voska | 03/13/07
|
  
Because the
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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For a huge sum of money
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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Bad comparison
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
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Short sighted
psyph3r@... | 03/13/07
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Copies
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
|

WTF ...
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
|

Well. you have proven you are clueless...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Right ON
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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Free Advertising for Viacom and others
leadmare@... | 03/13/07
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Where you went wrong
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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I fail to see the difference
voska | 03/13/07
|
  
Ok, let me try and explain
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
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The so-called Tragedy of the Commons
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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Seceede
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
|

Doesn't matter at all
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Maybe
ZenaPrincess | 03/13/07
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Not going to happen
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
Viacom
doldham@... | 03/13/07
|

And Well You Say
Ole Man | 03/13/07
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Is this illegal?
Kritzer | 03/13/07
|

You start breaking the law at 2
voska | 03/13/07
|

Is this illegal? YES?
thomas_digney@... | 03/14/07
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Fundamentally assumptive:
him87 | 03/13/07
|
Fundamentally assumptive:
him87 | 03/13/07
|

Assumptions....
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Go after the Riders, not he Vehicle
wrolle | 03/13/07
|

That too will come...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
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Madness
Narg | 03/13/07
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Is this illegal?
Kritzer | 03/13/07
|

Sorry
Kritzer | 03/13/07
|

In simplest terms
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
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Viacom sues google
mcclung@... | 03/13/07
|
Opinions
DemonX | 03/13/07
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Viacom's a big crybaby
chas_2 | 03/13/07
|

Pffftt... Wrong on every count
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/13/07
|
 
Missing the real point
voska | 03/13/07
|
  
Where you ae wrong
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/14/07
|

That's not how Viacom sees it
voska | 03/13/07
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Best writeup found
Timpraetor | 03/13/07
|

404 on the URL good buddy
Mahegan | 03/13/07
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Your right in the free speech issue but..
botaknee@... | 03/13/07
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stop crying.....
bgonetoo | 03/13/07
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Big bucks for Viacom
vger_z | 03/13/07
|
The Next Sound
ishelton@... | 03/13/07
|
I predicted this....
linux for me | 03/13/07
|
BlAh BlAh
whoop_123 | 03/13/07
|
Damn!
epcraig | 03/13/07
|
New name for the company: YouBoob
ssybesma | 03/13/07
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YouBoob not well-conceived
ssybesma | 03/13/07
|

A very descriptive argument
Ole Man | 03/14/07
|
 
That is as dopey as dopey gets
ssybesma | 03/14/07
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It is like the Wild Wild West
Bagleym@... | 03/13/07
|
Viacom vs Google
Big Al Jano | 03/13/07
|
You Can't Sue the Toolmaker
IQ9 | 03/14/07
|

Other toolmakers thought wrong in the past.
osreinstall | 03/15/07
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Well Sue the Human race
kmyat | 03/16/07
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