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t3st3r: Doesn't matter how well IE renders. If it is used by the majority, your apps will have to be ported to it. Actually it renders better than Mozilla. I use the SeaMonkey and it still has text ripple to it.

Also insulting them as morons is only cutting your own throat. I would not do business with folks if they called me a moron. I am sure they feel the same. You wouldn't either. Very arrogant.

Donnieboy: I don't give a crap about google. It doesn't do it for me. They want to log everyone forever and sell it to the highest bidder. They are not to be trusted. They also run so many duplicates and commercial offerings first that they are actually worse. Response is good, but the sorting sucks. Try http://www.ask.com
Go here.
http://www.google-watch.org.

As for MS making my life complicated, I don't think so. I just install it and apps and they just work. Somethings are a miss but it is rare. OSS misses a lot more and it is like hunting Easter eggs for the pre-requisites.

You need to learn math. You cannot hit 100% unless your apps run on everything. If Mozilla is at 25% tops being used in the US, the best you can get the folks out there using your killer app is 25%.
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FireFox will be the standard, open way to create cross platform rich  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Say what???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
You understood perfectly well that I was talking about using the FireFox  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Yeah, like that will happen  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
Wake up, we are only saying to get 100% coverage, you need to develop for  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
2 OSes?  Richard Flude | 12/12/06
Thanks for the correction, only 2 versions of Windows.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Are their two of you?? Or...  techboy_z | 12/12/06
Make that "are *there*"...  techboy_z | 12/12/06
I am not the only one with an IQ in double figures here.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Do you even think before you post?  ShadeTree | 12/14/06
Cross platform???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
IE7???  robert.paul@... | 12/12/06
And no one posted that  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
But that is the point, FireFox runs on all CURRENT OSes, IE does NOT. That  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
REALLY and TRULY!?  Joel R | 12/12/06
Opera is a great browser as well, sorry we have not been giving them the  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
More like the other way around.  Joel R | 12/12/06
Oh, and let's not forget:  Joel R | 12/12/06
Yes, lets not forget to give credit to others for exellent standards  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
crossplatform?  kamahl928 | 12/13/06
Cross-Platform?  nix_hed | 12/13/06
Don't be stupid...  hannson@... | 12/13/06
95, 98, and ME are disappearing fast, thanks to Microsoft dropping support.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Dude, it was your silly claim  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
It ain't a silly claim. It is the state of the world. Firefox runs on ALL  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
...but...  nix_hed | 12/13/06
Platform equals  skeptic tank | 12/12/06
In the future, the only way to have 100% coverage will be with FireFox.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
I guess you have had your head buried  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/06
But still, to get 100% coverage, your application MUST work on FireFox.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
geez, you need your eyes checked  Mitch 74 | 12/13/06
Of Course. "ABM"  John Zern | 12/12/06
We are just saying to get 100% coverage, you need to develop for FireFox,  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
That is completely wrong!  osreinstall | 12/12/06
Nobody is MUST anything to you  t3st3r | 12/12/06
FireFox is a simple download. It will be quite reasonable to require a  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
This is important: You are already required to download things for advanced  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Some folks just don't get it.  osreinstall | 12/12/06
The basic point is that people ARE willing to download for advanced  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
You still don't get it.  osreinstall | 12/12/06
As of now, MS has no plans to add STANDARD features for rich interactive  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Who's standards? OSS's?  osreinstall | 12/12/06
Well, if they ain't a going to allow Firefox, they won't allow random  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
That is correct. Companies like to control their property  osreinstall | 12/12/06
Going back to the Royal "We" Again? . . .  jlhenry62 | 12/15/06
Yes, cross platform.  CobraA1 | 12/12/06
Not supported is not the same as will not work  Richard Flude | 12/12/06
Yes, that is the great thing about open source. No company can deny a port  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
I disagree  DarbyOhara | 12/12/06
you would, wouldn't you?  nix_hed | 12/13/06
virii?  Bob G Beechey | 12/19/06
...  hannson@... | 12/13/06
3, I have't loaded 2 yet  voska | 12/12/06
Same here  Boot_Agnostic | 12/12/06
This alpha version is only for developers. Nobody else should use it.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
2.0.0.1 comes next  Greenknight_z | 12/13/06
Been pushed back  Greenknight_z | 12/14/06
Firefox 3 gets a first run  rondev | 12/12/06
Nobody said they would. We said if you want 100% coverage, you need to make  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
Bigger than just end user  Richard Flude | 12/12/06
Long live the Fox happy  t3st3r | 12/12/06
Speaking of IE...  Tranman123 | 12/14/06
double digits?  Keywalker4God | 12/12/06
sigh, DonnieBoy . . .  CobraA1 | 12/12/06
I agree with you on this, we need a healthy browser market.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/06
there are ways to get ie on linux  reugen | 12/12/06
Which advanced features, by the way?  CobraA1 | 12/12/06
We really do want things like Google Earth to run in the browser, so that  DonnieBoy | 12/13/06
hmmm  CobraA1 | 12/13/06
No, You do!  osreinstall | 12/13/06
I happen to like SVG  CobraA1 | 12/13/06
spelling correction  CobraA1 | 12/13/06
Just expressing concerns about these 2 for donating code a while back.  osreinstall | 12/13/06
plugin vs native  CobraA1 | 12/13/06
Plugins offer flexibility  osreinstall | 12/13/06
Firefox 3 is fast  Greenknight_z | 12/14/06
re: Firefox 3 is fast  osreinstall | 12/14/06
about the Google thing . . .  CobraA1 | 12/14/06
Just a little concerned.  osreinstall | 12/14/06
Firefox for all  sunfortress@... | 12/14/06
Including IE  m88k | 12/12/06
That was the case not too long ago...  nix_hed | 12/13/06
Features should be plugins  quandmeme | 12/12/06
Try this instead and keep your plugins.  osreinstall | 12/12/06
How much is "Too much"?  sunfortress@... | 12/14/06
Really?  Necrolin | 12/13/06
What they haven't even mentioned is...  shaft_z | 12/13/06
As best I know...  BitTwiddler | 12/18/06
Hardly a "first run"  Greenknight_z | 12/13/06
yes but no but  j0nn0 | 12/15/06
Will startup time be any better?  728rwp | 12/13/06
FF Loads Faster Already  john@... | 12/15/06
FF VER. 1.5.0.8  mesmd | 12/13/06
my reasons  CobraA1 | 12/18/06
Yeeeeeeeha..! I have..!  vishnu.m@... | 12/16/06

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