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We're at war. Our enemies are suicidal...they don't care about their lives. They need to be stopped, and it may require us to take measures that aren't considered humane for common criminals. Yes, there should still be some limits. But we can't just put capturees in jail and feed them steak dinners and expect to get the information we need about further plots and who else we ought to be looking for. Read the below. We need to stay the course.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/07/AR2005120700915.html?nav=rss_politics

[quote]One man from Najaf put it this way: "Three years ago we were in ruins. One year ago we were fighting in the streets. Now look at the people shopping and eating and not in fear."[/quote]

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In a letter to the terrorist leader Zarqawi, the Al Qaida leader Zawahiri has outlined his goals in Iraq with these steps, quote: "expel the Americans from Iraq, establish as Islamic authority over as much territory as you can to spread its power in Iraq, extend the jihad wave."

The terrorists hope America will withdraw before the job is done, so they can take over the country and turn it into a base for future attacks.

Zawahiri called the Vietnam War as a reason to believe the terrorists can prevail. He wrote, quote, "The aftermath of the collapse of American power in Vietnam and how they ran and left their agents is noteworthy."
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If the FBI had not the propensity  bjbrock | 12/07/05
Please reference a case where a judge ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
get lost you apologist chump  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
Sticks and Stones!  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
I'm not denying you anything  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
Wasn't your name calling and the get lost comment ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
here's three  el1jones | 12/08/05
I'll see your three and add some more!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
LOL, good job! (nt)  el1jones | 12/08/05
All of the links you reference do not show a ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
In none of the references you included did a ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Didn't many a right winger or wing nut as I prefer to call em  Laff | 12/08/05
Just happened in Florida  DarbyOhara | 12/08/05
A jury found a person innocent of 7 ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Passed yet not read by them, who prefer controlling us than terrorism.  HypnoToad | 12/07/05
The Unpatriotic Act  Repeal | 12/07/05
Ok  woot! | 12/08/05
they "don't count"  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
Hey "We do NOT torture" "We don't spy on our own people"  Laff | 12/07/05
those we can't torture, we drop white phosphorus on!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/07/05
Your absolutely correct, dropping ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
but they WEREN'T "enemy combatants"  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
From the link you provided.  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
It's banned by other countries, but we didn't sign.  el1jones | 12/08/05
Wow, and we sure can trust an embedded journalist!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
So Jeff,  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Well Jeff has a point. You can trust my personal Thrall or journalist.  Laff | 12/08/05
Yes...they were...  techboy_z | 12/08/05
Dude, we were told this by an embedded journalist  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
Where to begin?  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Well since the goal of war is to kill the enemy what's  Laff | 12/08/05
Just being the devil's advocate...  el1jones | 12/08/05
Intentions do matter!  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
War on Terror is a stupid concent. Terror is a tactic not an enemy.  Laff | 12/08/05
Yeah like fire bombing cities like Dresden and Tokyo  Laff | 12/08/05
During WWII the targeting of civilians was ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
We build "smart bombs" to better hit and kill a target.  Laff | 12/08/05
Smart Bombs are a precision weapon ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Oh now I understand you fear death so you can be terrorized.  Laff | 12/08/05
Comparing people who send out ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Didn't you just argue different times, different tactics?  Laff | 12/08/05
Do you have any evidence that the U.S. ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
You only have Bush threatening his ONLY VETO while in office..  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
Maybe you missed something?  techboy_z | 12/08/05
Yeah and after the news about American newspaper plants  Laff | 12/08/05
A bill can be vetoed for lots of reasons.  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
Like it being ANTI torture for instance....:)  Laff | 12/08/05
Make my day  John L. Ries | 12/08/05
Are we on the same world?  el1jones | 12/08/05
If you don't like it...  techboy_z | 12/08/05
I think I'll stay, thank you very much.  jbroche18 | 12/08/05
Cowards leave...Patriots stay and FIGHT!  Laff | 12/08/05
Well, almost  Spoon Jabber | 12/09/05
Spoon I love you man!!!  Laff | 12/09/05
What Ms. Rice said was ...  ShadeTree | 12/08/05
That woman lies like a rug!!!  Laff | 12/08/05
That's funny...  techboy_z | 12/08/05
After Afghanistan all Shrub has done is strengthen the enemy!  Laff | 12/08/05
Yeah, I'm always stronger after being shot in the head w/ a .50 cal.  Spoon Jabber | 12/09/05
Watching HardBall with Chris he had a reporter on  Laff | 12/09/05
Thanks  Tim Patterson | 12/07/05
6 senators could block?  John L. Ries | 12/07/05
Same guys who blew up the WTC, now blow up the Constitution. Is it OK? (NT)  Vily Clay | 12/08/05
The true War on terrorism has to start with the "Puppet"-makers. (NT)  Vily Clay | 12/08/05
NOW is the time to write your congressmen (nt)  CobraA1 | 12/08/05
and what effect would that really have?  Jeff Spicoli | 12/08/05
More than whining and/or repeating lies (NT)  Spoon Jabber | 12/09/05
So, who tells the truth? Bush and Co? Provide your criteria of truth. (NT)  Vily Clay | 12/10/05
Did anyone expect it to change?  BitTwiddler | 12/08/05
Uhhhh, which is it?  Spoon Jabber | 12/08/05

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