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Actually, I think Google is ahead
---But not all.---

Any publisher who has given Google permission, or given the
Open Content Alliance permission for their copyrighted works to
be scanned has done so for free, without any fee being charged.
Not all publishers have given said permission, so right now, their
copyrighted books are not being scanned.

---Phrase search is important for publishers, but the books to
be sold online is geared to end users. The synopsis is therefore
more important to their market.---

I'd say it depends on the market. We're not talking about
electronic books being sold and downloaded online, at least not
yet (as the public has soundly rejected the technologies currently
in use for these). For print books, yes, for some, the synopsis is
all that's needed. For other types of books and other markets,
more detailed information is needed. And if you can provide
those types of information to the people who need it, it should
result in more book sales. As I've said elsewhere, our Amazon
sales increased after we joined their "search inside the book"
program.

---Very wise and secure. If google wins MS will continue to do
the same for indemnity purposes. If google loses, MS is ahead of
google.---

Why would MS need indemnity if the courts have ruled that
doing so is perfectly legal? And why would any publisher grant
them permission when 1) it's not needed, and 2) MS is offering
nothing in return (assuming MS isn't stupid enough to pay for
something they could get for free).

If Google loses, I'm not sure MS is ahead of them, given that
Google has already been scanning books in the public domain
and books where they've received permission for quite a while
now. MS and Yahoo are just jumping into the fray now and will
be playing catch up for quite a while (as Google will continue
their scanning in the mean time).

Although perhaps MS might be considered ahead in that they
weren't the ones challenging publishers and forcing the lawsuit
in the first place. Then again, since most publishers are wh0res,
they'll license the rights to anyone willing to pay (note that in the
lawsuits they are not asking for any damages from Google).

---As for wasting hugh amounts of money, they will not. They
will trade it for DRM services and the publishers will forget
google.---

That's still a waste of money. I think it's more likely you'd see
MS exercising their legal fair use rights to create their own
index, then selling DRM to the publishers, in essence, getting
paid twice. That's their style, and that's why they're one of the
most successful companies on the planet. They don't do stupid
things.
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 10/27/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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I coulda used soemething like that to write a book paper easily  jmills@... | 10/25/05
Did he really say that?  Richard Flude | 10/26/05
No ...  Plain Logic | 10/26/05
Ok, so it applies to everyone BUT MS  BitTwiddler | 10/26/05
huh?  IT Scion | 10/26/05
Kind of  voska | 10/26/05
Exactly right  tic swayback | 10/26/05
There is one exception  osreinstall | 10/26/05
Who buys the books  voska | 10/27/05
Advantage of the second mover  tic swayback | 10/27/05
Nice try you two.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
I think you're confused here  tic swayback | 10/27/05
I don't think so  osreinstall | 10/27/05
Actually, I'm right here  tic swayback | 10/27/05
I love self confidence Tic, but you have to be pragmatic.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
Actually, I think Google is ahead  tic swayback | 10/27/05
Google is only ahead on search and me too at everything else.  osreinstall | 10/27/05
Synopis is useless  voska | 10/28/05
I don't think so, because they offer it.  osreinstall | 10/28/05
Yes he didn't...  BitTwiddler | 10/26/05
Public domain in DRM'd eBooks?  Nigel Johnstone | 10/26/05
"Do they continue to charge?"  voice_of_all_reason | 10/26/05
Just because it is in the public domain ...  ShadeTree | 10/26/05
Do people pay for Beethoven sheet music?  Rodney Davis | 10/26/05
Public Domain means you can do whatever you want with it  tic swayback | 10/26/05

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