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I did find it a long time ago
I married a Catalan lady and have several beautiful children with her. I have done my time in combat for this nation in the first Iraq war when we kicked them out of Kuwait and I fought in the un-declared token drug war, that most Americans don't know about or don't want to know about.

My wife and I are in the process of buying a house in New Zealand and then moving there to retire. I have seen the many facets of humanity and been exposed to many cultures over the years. Jaded? No, grounded in reality based on experince and travel and interaction with the locals of various nations. Nations that politicall range from Communism to Socialism to Democracy and Republicism and Theocratic rule and even Monarchy. It's amazing what being exposed to these different governments and the people that live under them will do for educating you in reality.

The US tried isolationism in the 20's and 30's... before we knew it we were drawn into a 2 front war, which we needed to pull us out of a disatrous depression. Isolationism doesn't work and what you suggest (although a great idea with the potential of fixing some of our local problems) cannot work because of how this nation is percieved and the premise was founded on. Isolationism would actually cause even more problems for the US and throw us into another economic depression, most likely worse than the great depression of the 30's. The reason it would be worse is our open trade would be affected, personal debt is at an all time high and as companies went to collect people would lose everything. It's more detailed that that but the bottom line is the impact would all but destroy the United States.

There are many facets to the many problems we face as a nation and in the world. But the biggest problem the US faces is the fact that the people of the United States (government and corporations primarily) refuse to accept the responsibility for their actions and the blame for their mistakes and failures.

Take a look at the Bush administration, until Katrina, it was always someone else's fault, Bush and his cabinet never took resposibility for anything negative. t was always someone else to blame for the failure or the mishap. When Bush came out and took responsibility for the screw up with the Katrina fiasco I almost fainted from shock. That was the first time in recorded history he accepted fault. I guess because the people are finally waking up and seeing what a disaster Bush has been to this nations financial status, world political status to name a couple.

His administration has never taken the full blame for any of it's mistakes nor has it allowed itself to be held accountable for it's actions and decisions until Katrina.

As for the Europeans, well I am sure they will do just fine without the US. For that matter, they already host the majority of the backbone servers, what is to stop them from assuming control or better yet, using the hardware they own and maintain on their soil and structuring their own independant internet? They what? We are one nation that would be against 20 or more... is this what you want? To alienate the United States even more?

As for being politically active, you may want to learn what that means. There are more ways that being in the capitol to be politically active. I can and do write letters to my congressman, senator and representitives. I participate in local town meetings and vote on local, state and federal issues. If an issue fails I write my politicians and voice my opinion. I support my stances with evidence or data from independant sources. All Americans are supposed to be active in their government, but because they feel someone else will take care of it or what ever, our rights and our freedoms are trampled and taken away by their inaction. And if you don't participate then again you are to blame for a lot of what is happening in this country now. Be proactive, it is your duty and your obligation to be active in your government and vote when you turn 18.

As it stands right now only 37% (I will have to double check that but that is what I remeber reading about a year ago) of the voting population actually voted! So that means only a small portion of the nation took action and tries to make changes. Pretty scary if you ask me.

Anyhow this is what a representitve Republic does with a democratic process. You can be politically active with very little effort and a small investment of time. but I guess they don't teach that anymore.
Posted by: Linux User 147560   Posted on: 10/09/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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What's next?  rick752 | 10/07/05
galileo  dax_z | 10/08/05
Well, we could always demand to "share" the responsibility of  Boot_Agnostic | 10/09/05
ok now turn this argument arround  NemesisNL | 10/08/05
Thanx for solidifying my point with your last comment  rick752 | 10/08/05
you still do not get it  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
The US doesn't pretend to be the best  Boot_Agnostic | 10/09/05
true words  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
airspace  glocks out | 10/12/05
ok now turn this argument arround  HopeSais | 10/12/05
trust  dax_z | 10/08/05
real nice attitude  NemesisNL | 10/08/05
Nobodies asking you to trust anyone  Nigel Johnstone | 10/08/05
doesn't matter whom you trust.  B.O.F.H. | 10/08/05
Thanks for the levity  Linux User 147560 | 10/09/05
Well mister  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
Grow Up World  flipper1975wat@... | 10/08/05
nope  NemesisNL | 10/08/05
Umm Yep  flipper1975wat@... | 10/08/05
Um nope  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
Ummm maybe you wanna do some research first  Linux User 147560 | 10/09/05
that was stupid  glocks out | 10/12/05
Gee, what happened to the mantra of "globalization"?  HypnoToad | 10/08/05
It's all about US hypocracy  mad.mutt | 10/08/05
I would beg to differ with you  flipper1975wat@... | 10/08/05
so what's different over here?  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
No we don't  Linux User 147560 | 10/09/05
Thanks  flipper1975wat@... | 10/09/05
I did find it a long time ago  Linux User 147560 | 10/09/05
Finally, someone begins to see the truth  skeptic tank | 10/10/05
......................  NemesisNL | 10/09/05
I agree that the UN should NOT be  bjbrock | 10/08/05
3rd World Country  flipper1975wat@... | 10/09/05
ok ...ok... enough rotfl  NemesisNL | 10/10/05
Other nations should consider setting up their own networks  WiredGuy | 10/09/05
China already has WiredGuy  btljooz | 10/10/05
So China wants to king of their own world  Boot_Agnostic | 10/10/05
I would take the same approach as the air traffic control system  mlindl | 10/09/05
So....  btljooz | 10/10/05
Message has been deleted.  Colonel_Panic | 10/10/05
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Message has been deleted.  Boot_Agnostic | 10/11/05
consistent, for sure  glocks out | 10/12/05

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