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Microsoft gains from a deal with AOL, Google doesn't.
Though Google has entered Instant messaging, for example, Microsoft has been providing IM for a comparatively long time.
The company is leveraging familiarity with the home product to make IM a business feature. That doesn't mean sales of a separate product necessarily, but another reason to buy an inclusive product.
If Microsoft can make a deal giving MSN access to AIM subscribers, they've expanded an useful market.

The significance of AOL's use of IE has been remarked, even by the Courts.

If Microsoft can make a deal for AOL using MSN search, the gain in market share and hence credibility will be substantial.

So Microsoft can gain from a deal with (though not a purchase of) AOL.
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Alottabull  Crestview | 09/23/05
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Kind of  java.user | 09/26/05
So, accountability is NOT possible or even desirable for  michael_t | 09/26/05
Umm...no...  java.user | 09/26/05
Calling it  Witt_z | 09/24/05
So you are saying  IT Scion | 09/24/05
No need to - Google can redistribute Linux at no cost... (nt)  Plain Logic | 09/24/05
This is total BS  sharikou | 09/24/05
MacOS will NOT run on PCs  frabjous | 09/24/05
Too late in your prediction  Dave P. | 09/24/05
I've seen it with my OWN EYES  Sir_Chancealot | 09/26/05
goog enough  swman14 | 09/25/05
The facts  tero_t_vaananen@... | 09/25/05
proof of nightmare being reality is easily available  hipparchus2000 | 09/25/05
Another one in sales  osreinstall | 09/25/05
I agree, just one thing though ...  An_Axe_to_Grind | 09/26/05
You are such a goofball  osreinstall | 09/26/05
MS NOT Behind or Scrambling  MikeOliverAZ | 09/26/05
Get over it, will ya  gjoh@... | 09/26/05
Dan - you drama queen  James Berkery | 09/26/05
Microsoft's fear shows what's wrong with Microsoft  asthorpe@... | 09/26/05
Ah, Microsoft to become more Linux and Sun  Boot_Agnostic | 09/27/05
MICROSOFT NIGHTMARE IS HOG WASH  fakir005@... | 09/27/05
nightmare or apparition?  d_medland@... | 09/28/05
ms was not taken by supprise  peter100 | 09/30/05
AJAX 2.0 : JAVAs daymare  LogicallyGenius | 10/03/05

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