On CBS.com: Get More On Amazing Race Eliminated Team
BNET Business Network:
BNET
TechRepublic
ZDNet
TalkBack 43 of 81:
Next »
« Previous
Combo platter
---iTunes can charge for the following. They are legal (cannot
be sued), they have a platform (main reason & integration),
quality control over songs (consistantly good) no viruses (safe)
and culture (snob bragging rights).---

Exactly my point. You compete with free infringement by
offering something better. Oh, and you left out convenience.

---You do not have to strip search. Just be patient and let the
system destroy backward compatility and law enforcement to
get the major infringers---

Things have to catch on for that to happen. Look at the whole
DivX thing. You never got a chance to get to the point where
back compatibility would have faded away, because no one
bought it. If a company switches over to all-DRM now, they lose
nearly all of their customers because they won't have new
equipment. If they sell in both formats, no one will buy the
DRMed version (unless of course, you offer that carrot,
something like a massively lower price). So it won't catch on.
It's a tough road to try to go down.

---Think of how much more money Doctorow would make if he
locked the content and slowed the losses. Those bands are
awful. That is why they are self promoting. The studios will not
touch them. They will not go anywhere. They also have the right
to avoid a studio. However if the studios noticed them, they
would sign in a heartbeat. Haggle smartly.---

You think Doctorow would have been better off selling the 1,000
copies normally sold by a 1st time author, rather than the
10,000 copies he's sold as a result of his strategy? As far as the
bands on myspace, clearly you haven't looked there. You'll find
major label acts like Beck, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Black
Eyed Peas and many others. It's the first step for these bands in
controlling their own careers. Yes, there are some unknowns
(some of whom have parleyed myspace into contracts with the
majors), so your comments here are unfounded at best.

---To break the code imbedded in a file, the file will be mangled
in the attempt. You will not even know what to go after. It will be
encrypted and scattered---

Again, I'll believe it when I see it.

---Most people will not care about DRM in their equipment. It
will slowly be introduced to min. disruption.---

See my comments above on why this is so difficult. Back
compatibility is going to kill it. Not to mention anything that
comes out of a speaker can be re-recorded as an unprotected
file.

---Not really. It will prevent you from playing from computer to
computer. It will be able to play on different reader devices---

I won't buy any music that I can't play on my laptop and my
desktop. No, I'm not going to pay twice for this privelege.

---The people that DRMed it will be responsible for un-DRMing
it. If you profit by it, you can take care of it. All you have to do is
release a unprotected file on the website. The locusts will take
care of the rest.---

What if they're out of business? Who will pay then? Do you
really expect them to pay for all that bandwidth? Again, there
are hundreds of thousands of books out there, and no one
knows who owns the copyright, or how to find the copyright
holder.

---The time of copyright should end with the original author's
life. His heirs should work for a living.---

I'd rather see it shorter, to help encourage them to continue
creating, but I could live with this. It's better than the current
system which encourages them to keep creating long after
they're dead.

---The losses are not trivial. They will be moderate and you will
feel it. Also copyright has to be vigoursly defended. That is
another reason they pursue infringers. You might have to DRM
it. That might be viewed as a necessary step to defend your
copyright.---

Again, show me a company that has been forced out of business
due to losses from filesharing. If you have no example, then
clealry the losses aren't overwhelming.

And I think you're confusing trademarks and copyrights. You
have to defend a trademark, not a copyright.

---Oh yes, the book is not on the internet. No wonder you do
not sweat like the studios. I know you wouldn't like me to scan it
to pdf and pass it around for free---

Actually, several chapters are available for downloading for free.
It's really helped spur sales. As far as pdf's that's not really a big
worry with a textbook. Most schools understand the law and
can't use pdf's for teaching anyway. Part of having a smart
business plan is adapting to technology and creating a product
that is not easily duplicated. This was the RIAA's big mistake in
killing off vinyl and going all digital.
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 06/29/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
Reply to Story No further replies to this post will be accepted.

Alert moderator to an offensive message

Subscribe to this discussion via Email or RSS

Movie/Music Industry - Be careful what you ask for...  BitTwiddler | 06/29/05
To show the true logic behind the ruling ...  jimmy-42 | 06/29/05
That's not what the ruling said  rapson | 06/29/05
uh carl  Protector | 06/29/05
That's the next court case  voska | 06/29/05
Have you read all of Grokster's internal e-mail?  tic swayback | 06/29/05
I'm guessing...  rapson | 06/29/05
Right you are Carl  tic swayback | 06/29/05
well  Protector | 06/29/05
It's certainly open for abuse  tic swayback | 06/29/05
DRM to the rescue  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Content protection has failed since it's inception!  Protector | 06/29/05
Vinnim, you really don't get it do you!  ShadeTree | 06/29/05
Good point, sort of  tic swayback | 06/29/05
And everthing gets better when ironed out.  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Tic it will not matter  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Customers by definition  voska | 06/29/05
And I'll win the lottery the weekend  voska | 06/29/05
voska, you are playing word games  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Because voska, My crystal ball is better than yours!  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Good luck with that Crystal Ball OS  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Tell that to the judge  voska | 06/29/05
I have some Windex for you Tic!  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Security is not Digital Right Management  voska | 06/29/05
I was told in the showroom, "we want to be your customer".  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Exactly Tic  voska | 06/29/05
Any one who could potentially buy from me is my customer  voska | 06/29/05
That depends if you are the intruder or the defender.  osreinstall | 06/29/05
You are wrong again voska  osreinstall | 06/29/05
I think you might be understanding now  voska | 06/29/05
Yes you can, but is it wise?  osreinstall | 06/29/05
No so  voska | 06/29/05
Whoa, hold on there Osreinstall  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Please look up Webster, voska.  osreinstall | 06/29/05
"The future" and "Advantages" and "Wisdom"  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Simple  voska | 06/29/05
You sliding my way  voska | 06/29/05
You 2 have a logic that defies human nature  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Re: Whoa, hold on there Osreinstall  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Logic versus reality  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Whoa redux  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Re: Whoa and Logic combined  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Combo platter  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Naw just a steak platter will do  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Surf and Turf  tic swayback | 06/30/05
More like McDonalds in here  osreinstall | 06/30/05
A rock and a hard place  tic swayback | 06/30/05
Re: Surf and Turf  osreinstall | 06/30/05
The rocks can be avoided  osreinstall | 06/30/05
I hear you  tic swayback | 06/30/05
With a little luck Walmart will hear me (us).  osreinstall | 06/30/05
Ipod 25,000 songs  pesky_z | 06/29/05
You're making a lot of assumptions  tic swayback | 06/29/05
sounds like you're a little older than the target demographic  pesky_z | 06/29/05
Look at the percentages  tic swayback | 06/29/05
unless of course  pesky_z | 06/29/05
Cartels are not real friendly  tic swayback | 06/29/05
the death throes of a beast are so ugly  pesky_z | 06/29/05
Can We Get Off This? It Won't Change ANYTHING  itanalyst | 06/29/05
It does change some things  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Good Point Tic  itanalyst | 06/29/05
Some things are harder to legislate than others  tic swayback | 06/29/05
All you can do is continue to support P2P and donate to the EFF  Protector | 06/29/05
and boycott RIAA and MPAA products  Protector | 06/29/05
A tool to help with this  tic swayback | 06/29/05
That's What I Do Tic  itanalyst | 06/29/05
Don't forget your local used cd/dvd store  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Buying used still fund the RIAA/MPAA  voska | 06/29/05
Wrong again voska  osreinstall | 06/29/05
My point is eventually there won't be anything to buy  voska | 06/29/05
There'll still be a supply  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Pawn shops deal in more than cds  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Not sure I buy that argument  tic swayback | 06/29/05
I don't get that  voska | 06/29/05
Most agree with you  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Root for yourself Tic  osreinstall | 06/29/05
Don't underestimate the power of Walmart  tic swayback | 06/30/05
Go here Tic  osreinstall | 06/30/05
The old days....  Nullifidian | 06/29/05
Home taping is killing music  tic swayback | 06/29/05
Nothing changes the fact that DRM will not work!  Protector | 06/29/05

What do you think?

SponsoredWhite Papers, Webcasts, and Downloads

advertisement
Click Here
advertisement

Enterprise Applications

  • Check out some of the easiest and most powerful ways to boost productivity while saving money on your application infrastructure. See ZDNet's comprehensive Enterprise Application resource center, now!
  • New Online Dashboard
  • Read about top issues IT decision-makers face every day, plus get cost effective solutions to real life IT problems. Oracle Topline