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Intel's problem is
that it is or appears to be irresolute at this stage. They clearly contemplated a successor to their's x86 (IA32) ISA with the IA64. However it seems that Intel is still siting at the crossroads and it is hesitating to make firm commitments one way or another.

IBM, SUN, HP (and previously DEC) new well that a good high-end processor does not make a good high-end system. Itanium-2 is decent but it is lacking all the necessary infrastructure h/w to allow it to become the key part of a coherent architecture. Only SGI managed to pull this off: they designed the memory, interconnect and I/O subsystems that can leverage Itanium. And they have been pretty successful at that, even considering that they were relying on RHEL IA64 Linux to run the system.

IA64 shortcommings include:
1) EPIC: radical departure from well understood / well accepted CISC or RISC technology. EPICs require very sophisticated compilers to leverage the inherent ILP. Applications written for the 32-bit x86 need considerable effort to be ported to IA64. Operating Systems need even more effort.

2) Itanium has no specification for scalable systems architecture. Although SGI managed to glue 1000s of Itaniums together, it is using its own cache coherence protocols and inteconnect designs. If IA64 gets an 'upgrade' specification, SGIs design may have to be scrapped.

3) Itanium is a mem bandwidth hog. It demands very wide data buses to keep feeding it otherwise it will be just stalling most of the time.

4) Itanium is not multithread friendly. Processors of this complexity need to execute multiple thread contexts (SMT). Imagine a server receing 2,000-10,000 interrupts / sec (not uncommon in servers) which means that the processor will be just saving restoring context to service interrupts.

5) Itanium consumes too much power and generates too much heat.



In short, Itanium-2 is a decent processor but it is an intermediate step not the final refined product. I guess Intel didn't realize that to succeed needs a long term commitment to R/D. IBM, Cray and SUN know this too well.

However since the x86 ISA is just so hard to improve upon, Intel needs to sit down and think what they should plan for the next 10 years.

What they need is an intermediate 'sematic' stage between IA32 and IA64 and a plan to make Itanium more SMT and more scalable.

-m
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Intel's uncertain processor road-map (or the lack of a road...)  michael-t | 03/08/05
IBM has the advantage here  nucrash | 03/08/05
Intel's problem is  michael-t | 03/08/05
Just Talk  mabricen | 03/09/05
He he he ...  michael-t | 03/09/05
I think Intel would even disagree with your post.  bjbrock | 03/08/05
Very well put.  The King's Servant | 03/08/05
Intel overlooked  michael-t | 03/08/05
Itanium vs. Alpha, not x86  Filker0_z | 03/08/05
Opinion noted  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Back to be Basics?  nucrash | 03/09/05
Cell out  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Itanium Headed for Museum...  Neutrodyne | 03/08/05
I doubt it.  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Wishful thinking on Intel's part  balsover | 03/08/05
Misconception  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Definite shift in the party line  John L. Ries | 03/08/05
Itanium for "Big Iron"?  mwagner@... | 03/08/05
Always room  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Topic of interest: Should we stick with x86?  CobraA1 | 03/09/05
Sticking  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Why Not Emulation  nucrash | 03/09/05
No emulation  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
excuse me?  doh123 | 03/09/05
No, really - according to Intel  fmcgowan | 03/09/05
it has some hardware to help, yes, but  doh123 | 03/09/05
We are stuck with X86 for another 20 years  Prognosticator | 03/10/05
Wishful Thinking  kelkins@... | 03/09/05
Itanic WILL win in the end  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
A couple of points  fmcgowan | 03/09/05
Points taken  Roger Ramjet | 03/09/05
Good to hear back so soon...  fmcgowan | 03/09/05
True, as there is nothing to really encroach on is there?  PaddyOmaddy | 03/09/05
The wild cats in my backyard won't disturb the unicorns..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/09/05
Its about market acceptance...  GeiselS@... | 03/09/05
Wait for Itanium? IBM PowerPC G5 is ready right now.  billmichael | 03/13/05

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