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hipparchus2000, you trust Steve jobs too much.: Slashdot:
Every time there's a mention of Mac OS X on Slashdot, there's a flurry of responses about how unbearably slow Mac OS X is.

Mac vs. PC III: Mac Slaughtered Again
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii2.htm

The Gadget Show: PC vs MAC Jul 26 2004 channel 5, 7:30pm, UK
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5648&page=1

"Even the processing of a 25MB file benefited from more RAM?in fact, a small bump-up to 1GB RAM caused our test Action to complete its work in about one-third the time it took when confined to the stock 512MB."
http://www.macaddict.com/issues/0312/rev.g5.html

"If your Mac is running slowly despite having sufficient RAM (especially if you have just updated your operating system) ... you need to run Repair Permissions in Disk Utility. In fact, if you have never run Repair Permissions, do it. And if you have run it previously, do it again. (For some reason some permissions tend to revert.)"
http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html#Anchor-Slow-29754

Reader Comments:

OS X 10.2 still sucks.

"Today, at the place I intern, they finally upgraded the aging Pentium II 266 with more memory and Win 2000. It made a huge difference and I swear the thing is far, far faster in most of what I do everyday than my TiBook 550 at home. Web surfing on the slower connection that they have compared to what I have at home is much snappier. In 10.2, there are still annoying menu delays that make the computer feel like it's running some emulator. For several weeks, I have been using a 25-page document with about 20 Excel graphs in it. The TiBook is dog slow in Word v.X and, on the P2, everything I did was easily 2-5 times faster, particularly in the responsiveness in scrolling. I can't imagine how fast a 2.6 GHz PC feels doing the same thing. Other than the crappy screen and mouse, it was just a lot easier to continue editing the document on the PC.

Apple has a long way to go before OS X becomes usable. Faster machines should help, but jeez, they have been developing OS X for 6 years, before there was even a G3, and in the GUI, 10.2 still gets creamed speedwise by an old PC clunker. This all made me very sad

I prefer Mac OS as long as Mac OS behaves like a friendly OS for my hardware. Jaguar is not, in many ways. So I stick to 10.1.5 until my DVD and other stuff come back to me. An upgraded Beige machine is not something you can send to trash just because Steve Jobs makes efforts to have you do so."
http://www.atpm.com/8.09/paradigm.shtml

"Applications open fairly decently when I first boot up, but after a day or so, launches (and much else) slow down to an excruciating crawl."
http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2002/12/20021220135143.shtml

"Applications were taking between three and five times as long to load in Jaguar as they had under 10.1.5"
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20021218055429153

"Volume transfer slow-down The most common symptom of slow-down after applying the Mac OS X 10.2.2 update is a dramatic increase in the time it takes to copy files from optical drives, such as Internal CD-ROM drives to the main volume running Mac OS X ..."
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20021113072207458&query=Slow+Jaguar

Slow Network Speeds In Jaguar
http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-20323.html

Scrolling an image up and down on a canvas is very slow in OS X but fast in Windows.
http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/realbasic-nug/2004-12/msg00629.html

Slow startup issues under Mac OS X 10.3.7
http://macs.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macfixit.com%2F

Mac OS X 10.3.7 (#8): More on Slow startup
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20041227083427170&query=slow+startup+issues+under+Mac+OS+X+10.3.7

Network slowness, fixes We continue to cover severe network slow-downs for a number of systems upgraded to Mac OS X 10.3.7. This issue can cause an array of other problems including slow startup for network-enabled applications and slow startup for ...
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20041221081337401&query=slow+startup+issues+under+Mac+OS+X+10.3.7; Posted by: Vily Clay Posted on: 01/15/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Gorbatchev tdml | 01/14/05

How big will the Mini be? Real World | 01/14/05

Then why do you keep clicking on the story links ? BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

well... Real World | 01/14/05

No matter what side of the fence you are on...you Laff | 01/14/05

It will be big mlindl | 01/14/05

Yeah...we just had a meeting here last night and Laff | 01/14/05

Let us all hope it is big Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 01/14/05

Agreed dave95 | 01/15/05

Keep those fingers crossed Joe Blow_z | 01/14/05

Sorry Blow but NO you once again only focus on part Laff | 01/14/05

OS X is more secure matson_z | 01/14/05

OK give us an example we can test Richard Flude | 01/14/05

Well at least you should speak from experience Hard Cider | 01/17/05

From Experience Confused by religion | 01/17/05

GO cashaww | 02/02/05

RE: It will be big JakAttak | 01/14/05

For those with spare hardware, oh, yes! JonathonDoe | 01/14/05

Don't let Vily hear you say that...snicker:) Laff | 01/14/05

your still not getting your g5 Net-Tech_z | 01/14/05

and? doh123 | 01/14/05

Yes, I know, but I love my G4 powerbook... JonathonDoe | 01/14/05

Children want to play with toys (Mac mini, etc.), adults ? with PC. Vily Clay | 01/15/05

Vily you're just a sourpuss hipparchus2000 | 01/15/05

hipparchus2000, you trust Steve jobs too much. Vily Clay | 01/15/05

Not him SC-man | 01/15/05

SC-man, do you have any arguments about the issue? (NT) Vily Clay | 01/15/05

any arguments about the issue SC-man | 01/16/05

same thing according the thesaurus voska | 01/17/05

SC-man, since when the word ?debate? is talking about nothing? (NT) Vily Clay | 01/17/05

Please cashaww | 02/02/05

The mini is good if... Michael Kelly | 01/14/05

ALL COMPUTERS SHOULD LOOK AS GOOD!! cybershoplifter | 01/14/05

Many PCs do look that good sishio | 01/14/05

Not even close.... BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

Goes far beyond Shuttle sishio | 01/14/05

Better challenge tic swayback | 01/14/05

Yeah but what processor... dave95 | 01/15/05

A few advises. chiishen | 01/14/05

Way to go Apple! George Mitchell | 01/14/05

Personally I think Macs were affordable before the mini voska | 01/14/05

But not a commodity Ken_z | 01/14/05

Here is where Apple is at: TWRX | 01/14/05

How big will the Mini be? Loverock Davidson | 01/14/05

New Nominee: Master of the Obvious Award bidemytime | 01/14/05

He's also somewhat wrong... BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

Most folks I know do, but then, a KVM is cheap alternative. JonathonDoe | 01/14/05

G5 Processor for Mac Mini, please! Grayson Peddie | 01/14/05

The Heat Sink wouldn't even fit in the case happy

BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

Attach your favorite sound card Len Rooney | 01/14/05

Bigger priorities tic swayback | 01/14/05

That could change voska | 01/17/05

Yes I can see it now....MS in India dropping it's current Laff | 01/17/05

kiosks and robots marmar_z | 01/14/05

"Apple didn't design the Mini to be modified doesn't mean it won't happen" BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

Hacking? cashaww | 01/14/05

misuse of the term "hacking" marmar_z | 01/14/05

Hacking is correct Len Rooney | 01/14/05

And one good idea bidemytime | 01/14/05

Good Point... BitTwiddler | 01/14/05

Bingo! cashaww | 01/14/05

Here's the bad news part j.m.galvin | 01/14/05

It depends what you want out of it Michael Kelly | 01/14/05

512 will work well Ken_z | 01/14/05

Memory tic swayback | 01/14/05

Here's an interesting comparison j.m.galvin | 01/14/05

This is why rcark01 | 01/14/05

Nice attempt... dave95 | 01/15/05

dave95, you would be smarter than a monkey ? you?d have arguments (NT) Vily Clay | 01/15/05

Galvin, Vily, and that other guy/gal...I myself have Laff | 01/15/05

Laff, where are your single G4 vs. PC arguments? Vily Clay | 01/15/05

must not feed, must not feed.... Vily have you ever owned a Mac? dave95 | 01/15/05

dave95 relax, you already proved you cannot think on your own. (NT) Vily Clay | 01/15/05

sigh...OK Vily I'll give it oine more try. The Mac Mini Laff | 01/16/05

Linux is a worm-resistant OS. Cheaper solutions are not good? Why? (NT) Vily Clay | 01/16/05

Vily you must me full by now.....hehe dave95 | 01/16/05

Vily you know darn well that I am a huge supporter Laff | 01/17/05

Laff, why you wanna rip off Linux users? (NT) Vily Clay | 01/17/05

Vily that is just a weird question.....I have NO interest Laff | 01/18/05

Laff, I'm surprised at you! Spoon Jabber | 01/18/05

Laff, you push a toy - overpriced Mac mini. Why not real things - PCs? (NT) Vily Clay | 01/18/05

I'm not pushing the Mac or the Mac Mini..it's just a Laff | 01/21/05

Mac mini vs. iMac is overpriced. Check it. (NT) Vily Clay | 01/21/05

Ouch!!! PA-ITGuy | 01/16/05

On second though... PA-ITGuy | 01/16/05

It's a copy rcark01 | 01/14/05

ive seen a few mini-itx machines, but they tend to be much larger than mini hipparchus2000 | 01/14/05

or remember the Cube tdml | 01/14/05

Here ya go rcark01 | 01/15/05

Well I guess it's true..beauty is in the eye of the beholder Laff | 01/15/05

please rcark01 | 01/15/05

Wanna bet? Laff | 01/16/05

Yes rcark01 | 01/16/05

OK..set the terms and conditions and "IF" they are Laff | 01/17/05

He's got a point voska | 01/17/05

It?s good if Mac mini would be just twice slower than $500 PC. (NT) Vily Clay | 01/17/05

Vily even "IF" what you say about he Mac mini's speed Laff | 01/18/05

Mac is insecure & overpriced but hackers are too lazy. (NT) Vily Clay | 01/18/05

Matters not the reason(s) as long as it is NOT hacked! Laff | 01/21/05

But the point is Mac security - nothing to be proud of. (NT) Vily Clay | 01/21/05

We've heard that before... David Parker | 01/19/05

theyre similar size to Mac Cube (5 yrs ago). Mac mini is 1/3 size of these hipparchus2000 | 01/15/05

corection rcark01 | 01/15/05

You are getting a bit off there buddy. Laff | 01/16/05

correction rcark01 | 01/16/05

Not only have I been inside many of them..I use to own Laff | 01/17/05

Yes the stores do install them voska | 01/17/05

Apple Cube on it's side... MacCanuck | 01/18/05

Of what, the cube? google it! dave95 | 01/15/05

The cube rcark01 | 01/15/05

It's a simple reliable system made for the user who Laff | 01/16/05

ha rcark01 | 01/16/05

we'll see hipparchus2000 | 01/16/05

fool rcark01 | 01/16/05

multitrack on pc - yeah right hipparchus2000 | 01/17/05

But let's get back to your original statement dave95 | 01/16/05

Every OEM does that voska | 01/17/05

Yeah I know dave95 | 01/17/05

From what I've seen this memory slot does NOT seem Laff | 01/17/05

Apple allows opening j.m.galvin | 01/17/05

Did read the warranty carefully? voska | 01/17/05

Yeah. It's OK j.m.galvin | 01/17/05

is the mini another iPod dcbatchelor | 01/18/05

Using a mini to upgrader older iMacs? David Parker | 01/19/05

hmm...wish granted swede_z | 01/19/05

It's big enough to provoke Wintel "Patriots" already! swede_z | 01/19/05

APPLE COPIES AGAIN! rcark01 | 01/20/05

Well if it is a copy..at least Apple's copy is GOOD looking! Laff | 01/21/05

Compare the sizes Ken_z | 01/22/05

As big as a gnat's ass... Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 01/23/05

A gnat's ass logically must be like a Time Lords Tardis Laff | 01/23/05

Wait for complaints from people weaned on Windows GFW_z | 01/26/05

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