Apple fans abuzz over new iMac

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Clarification: "the end user" != Microsoft
The 'End User' is the person who authored the 'data', not the author of the NTFS filesystem.
The End User owns the content of the datafile say an MS Word <ocument.
The End User is licensed to use MS Word to author the document and by virtue of usability, is licensed to use the OS that is required to use MS Word to author the document that creates the datafile. The datafile when placed on an NTFS filesystem becomes property of Microsoft except for the content within the datafile. You have to ask for permission to read your document you created.

There are too many clueless people that DO run XP and unprotected causing headaches for people like myself who are asked to clean up their badware. I don't mind fixing the problems because people aren't on 133MHz pentiums anymore but after a couple of hours on the same system to clean it throughly gets tiring.

Don't competely get me wrong. MS's OS's are usable and popular and I don't have a problem supporting them but if your application base isn't tied to the OS, you should consider using a different OS other than Windows.

If you haven't used Expose', you really are missing out. After using it and working with Windows AND Linux, I found that my productivity dropped. Apple's release of Tiger will enhance Expose's tool. Sun has their desktop version of it coming soon and MS's Longhorn seems to boast about having something like it but I'm sure it will fall short of expectations.

The iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, and other software packages I mentioned are not free but part of the iLife package put out by Apple for $50. For $50, it's a pretty damn usable suite of sweet software.

That suite is included with a new system purchase.

MS has an army of software authors especially for it's business unit. MS's photo tools and movie tools fall way short of Apple's small militia core of software authors.

If you suggest spending money on those packages, let's compare.
$50 for comparable sound editing software
$50 for comparable DVD authoring software
$99 for comparable movie authoring software
$99 for comparable audio mixing like Garage Band
$80 for ACDsee comparable with iPhoto

$400 Windows comparable to $50 for iLife.

Granted that Apple hardware costs more due to lack of choice but Apple hardware is top quality.

I would spend $130 for Tiger AND $50 for iLife.
I wouldn't spend $200 for a rental to an upgrade for XP Pro.; Posted by: Oscar_Goldman Posted on: 08/27/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Overpriced rip-off loser_z | 08/27/04

Ahhh, Wrong! dave95 | 08/27/04

And all the viruses too. Oscar_Goldman | 08/27/04

You bet! nomorems | 08/27/04

don't get ZZ and ZZ"." mixed up Monkey_MCSE | 08/27/04

where did you get that? Valis Keogh | 08/27/04

Clarification Oscar_Goldman | 08/27/04

XP is rentware? rpmyers1 | 08/27/04

Yes it's ironic how... toadlife | 08/27/04

Read the EULA Oscar_Goldman | 08/27/04

NWOR nomorems | 08/27/04

note the *period* after the posters screenname eLurker | 08/27/04

Typical Windoze User durandal00 | 08/27/04

true but M_c | 08/29/04

Yeah, sign me up for that POC BitTwiddler | 08/30/04

while you're sitting on your mac Valis Keogh | 08/27/04

Since it is Apple it is good, but MS it is bad right? loser_z | 08/27/04

I can get a Dull for $200??? middle of nowhere | 08/27/04

Well for the price of 1 Dell dr praetorius | 08/27/04

its *not* zz eLurker | 08/27/04

thanks .) ryusen | 08/27/04

be flattered eLurker | 08/27/04

but, ryusen | 08/27/04

yes eLurker | 08/27/04

Apple did not ruin the whole industry like MS did. Xunil_Sierutuf | 08/27/04

Shut up. Linux_Developer | 08/27/04

Don't use Dell to compare hardware dwjohnso | 08/27/04

lol doh123 | 08/27/04

I'm crazy too (NT) rkadowns | 08/27/04

to compare against a G5... ryusen | 08/27/04

Good Point el1jones | 08/28/04

The whole Apple phenomenon is amusing to me toadlife | 08/27/04

I have friend who a Mac Enthusiast and thing IMACs suck voska | 08/27/04

I don't blame him toadlife | 08/27/04

I'm sure you've seen this one but.. toadlife | 08/27/04

A flop? Hardly tic swayback | 08/27/04

I just heard... toadlife | 08/27/04

I'm satisfied with mine tic swayback | 08/27/04

by far the funniest thing i've ever seen.. Monkey_MCSE | 08/27/04

HQ version toadlife | 08/27/04

Yes, it's very funny but It's not about an iMac Fred Fredrickson | 08/27/04

I never said it was about iMacs toadlife | 08/27/04

Gimme a break Fred Fredrickson | 08/29/04

So their site happened to be down... toadlife | 08/30/04

iMacs are handy tic swayback | 08/27/04

Amusement tic swayback | 08/27/04

come on tic eLurker | 08/27/04

And the sad part is..... tic swayback | 08/27/04

lol (nt) eLurker | 08/27/04

True toadlife | 08/27/04

Excitement Martin Marvinski | 08/29/04

Apples and Oranges again! dave95 | 08/29/04

Money does not equal excitement tic swayback | 08/30/04

as long as eLurker | 08/27/04

It's amusing to me too dave95 | 08/29/04

Ok, what's your point happy

BitTwiddler | 08/30/04

Looks like.... theace18 | 08/27/04

Hey, give Apple their due!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/27/04

No Ax, I feel your pain tic swayback | 08/27/04

Does this sound familiar? rkadowns | 08/27/04

It's their pain tic. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/28/04

yes but... ryusen | 08/27/04

oops... ryusen | 08/27/04

Marketing.. rkadowns | 08/27/04

that just work... ryusen | 08/27/04

well eLurker | 08/27/04

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! rkadowns | 08/28/04

apples are enigmatic hipparchus2000 | 08/27/04

I agree, but you'd better watch what you say. Linux_Developer | 08/27/04

And you need to read what I say. No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/28/04

What do you mean by "design" j.m.galvin | 08/30/04

I'd like one Melmac_z | 08/27/04

Yes, Apple is the future FilledOut | 08/27/04

The reason I will never buy an Apple again... MrEMann | 08/28/04

Good DarthRidiculous | 08/30/04

I use both Ken_z | 08/28/04

It's not the costs, its the meaner fanatics FilledOut | 08/28/04

No Way! tic swayback | 08/30/04

I'm pretty sure they'll be enough "RTFM" FilledOut | 08/30/04

Meaner Fanatics? Jkirk3279 | 08/30/04

I don't know, here at Zdnet, FilledOut | 08/30/04

Not so much mean... tic swayback | 08/30/04

Sorry I took so long to get back to you FilledOut | 08/30/04

"Chic"? Try "Trailblazing" or "leaving toads and losers behind" YuridaMan | 08/29/04

Dell, HP Eat my dust!!!!! supoman | 08/30/04

Personally, I'm glad Apple is around. James Dean_z | 08/30/04

That would make you a follower as opposed to an mlindl | 08/30/04

pics of new iMac rrivkin | 08/30/04

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