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No hogwash, just responding to your claims
I do understand that at the moment we have choices, and people
not buying DRM crippled products will help explain to
manufacturers that we aren't all sheep who will accept whatever
they want.

What I'm responding to is your declaration that non-crippled
media and machines will not be available in the future,
specifically where you said:

"So unless you are going to never buy another piece of electronic
hardware or any content again, you can't avoid it."

When/if that happens, there will be no choice left.
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Definitely Jekyl and Hyde in action  AbsolutelyNot | 07/13/04
Too bad the entertainment industry is finished  Jeff Spicoli | 07/13/04
Go Figure..  ParadigmOdyssey | 07/13/04
Tech Diva nailed it - "OK, we already do that!"  cybershoplifter | 07/14/04
clicked story not message...see below!!  cybershoplifter | 07/14/04
my fingers not working?  cybershoplifter | 07/14/04
Well duh!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
TechDiva, does your boss worry about "the Benjamins"???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Just got done reading "1984'  cybershoplifter | 07/14/04
Ok, so who are the CONSUMER protection...  BitTwiddler | 07/14/04
Consumer protection = Choice to buy or not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
So right you are  voska | 07/14/04
Exactlly right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
But you have already told us there is no choice  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Your choice is to buy or not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Re: Your choice is to buy or not.  none none | 07/14/04
You are correct in part.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
What good is this?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
RE: What good is this?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
What about manufacturers?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
manufactures are driven by their customers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Customers don't want laws limiting innovation  tic swayback | 07/14/04
DRM and indie content  none none | 07/14/04
RE:Your choice is to buy or not.  nite_w0lf | 07/14/04
Not much of a choice, is it?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Of course it is!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Ultimatums versus choices  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Couldn't resist  Spoon Jabber | 07/14/04
Spoon, how many black fords did he sell?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Lighten up, just humor!  Spoon Jabber | 07/14/04
Nothing "humorous" about theft. (Pirating)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Hogwash tic. There are CHOICES and you said it yourself.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
No hogwash, just responding to your claims  tic swayback | 07/14/04
tic, who used a gun to your head to buy anything???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Nothing funny about theft (milk stealing)  tic swayback | 07/14/04
We Agree!  cybershoplifter | 07/14/04
Mark this day on the calendar.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Long over due.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
The Media PC is joke  voska | 07/14/04
You may be right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
And it will be long under used.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 07/14/04
Explain how you believe your going to avoid it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Ah, the contradictions of being No Ax  tic swayback | 07/14/04
I see your mistake.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
What about the rest of my point?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Tech guys  voska | 07/14/04
There was no point!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
So now you're on Monti's side?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
If Monti is against drug dealers I am.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
You don't have very strong principles, do you?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
I am not the one demanding the right to steal.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Fair use is not stealing  tic swayback | 07/14/04
You answerd the question yourself  voska | 07/14/04
Correct, the CHOICE is the consumers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
hmmm  V Sanders | 07/14/04
Of course they can make a choice.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Re: Explain how you believe your going to avoid it.  none none | 07/14/04
What's odd to me here  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Tech is useless without content.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Not true  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Ummm, why build a media PC if there is no content?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Not all PC's are Media PC's  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Funny thought here  voska | 07/14/04
WTF?  Spoon Jabber | 07/14/04
It's the home pirate that...  voska | 07/14/04
Home pirates = millions of Kazaa users.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Don't forget  voska | 07/14/04
What about the millions who aren't pirates?  Spoon Jabber | 07/14/04
If they use Kazaa to obtain illegal content, they ARE pirates.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
You're right  Spoon Jabber | 07/14/04
YOu point out what I have been YELLING for at least a year!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Best analogy You have ever used  buxxmaster | 07/14/04
truth  V Sanders | 07/14/04
Control, control control  Amberhawk | 07/14/04
As soon as they mark them CLEARLY  James Dean_z | 07/14/04
Why not try to help out the honest customer?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Gee, I thought that was what the article was about.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
I'll believe it when I see it  tic swayback | 07/14/04
No Ax calls for government control of technology  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Cute, stupid but cute none the less.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Can't face up to your own hypocrisy?  tic swayback | 07/14/04
None exists.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
Again you ignore what you can't face up to  tic swayback | 07/14/04
Broadcast flags  voska | 07/14/04
Some of you should take simple action,  James Dean_z | 07/14/04
Attn: tic...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/14/04
I don't disagree with your desire, just your methods  tic swayback | 07/14/04
I don't think congress sees it  voska | 07/14/04
Encrypted DVDs - NOT!!!  itanalyst | 07/14/04

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