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Gotta love this...
standard piece of misdirection:
> "Companies can get it when they buy new systems"

"Free" of course! Microsoft GIVES it away to the OEM! NOT!
Posted by: Cardinal_Bill   Posted on: 07/16/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Will Vista cause a switch to Macs, Linux?  Loverock Davidson | 07/16/07
Woot!  zkiwi | 07/16/07
Vista Versions?  ye | 07/16/07
Gotta love this...  Cardinal_Bill | 07/16/07
Show me where I said it was free.  ye | 07/16/07
Question there !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
Again: Show me where I said it was free.  ye | 07/17/07
Haha homemade computers in the workplace  ARiggz | 07/17/07
Uh... Get a job in IT.. THEN come back and try it again..  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
uh...  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/17/07
Given the RAM, it will  Freebird54 | 07/17/07
You forgot  zkiwi | 07/16/07
I forgot nothing.  ye | 07/16/07
Hook, Line, and Sinker  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 07/16/07
righto -  zoroaster | 07/17/07
sbcjohn3  sbcjohn3 | 08/13/07
Huh?  handydan918 | 07/17/07
I prefer OS X. Preference doesn't mean better.  ye | 07/17/07
Really?  zkiwi | 07/17/07
In the end none said that would migrate away from Windows  ye | 07/17/07
switching from Vista  Khyron | 07/17/07
They also ?forgot?  Billsey | 07/17/07
What's in the box  chromeronin | 07/17/07
Driver Support better in Vista  jakenhauser | 07/17/07
OK, then prove it.  ye | 07/17/07
No no no no no  Ole Man | 07/17/07
OK...walk into any computer store  ye | 07/17/07
So what did you prove?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I proved that Vista is better supported than any other...  ye | 07/17/07
You proved diddly squat, Ye  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I'll take your lack of support as your acknowledgement...  ye | 07/17/07
Interesting, ye . . . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
Nice ad hominem JL. When you have a real argument...  ye | 07/17/07
I am guess ing they still have XP !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
Cost of Vista is essentially the same.  ye | 07/17/07
"Cost of Vista is essentially the same"  Ole Man | 07/17/07
One that you are imagining.  ye | 07/17/07
One that you are imagining  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Another one of your strawmen.  ye | 07/17/07
Your comparison is to anything  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Subject was XP therefore my comparison to it.  ye | 07/17/07
Subject was XP  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Can you do anything else but build strawmen?  ye | 07/17/07
Cost of Vista is essentially the same to ????  combrink | 07/20/07
All that training  Ole Man | 08/09/07
Get a clue...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
lots like 11,000?  Khyron | 07/17/07
You can get a cheaper hooker than that on the phone  Ole Man | 08/09/07
Hold the phone... Right answer, wrong assumption.  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
You left out Vista Basic and Premium  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Hardware  Necrolin | 07/18/07
Mac OSX  MacGeek2121 | 08/09/07
Whoomp there it is!  Loverock Davidson | 07/17/07
Do the world a favor - switch to Vista...  macbill | 07/17/07
uh huh  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
ROFLMAO !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
Whoomp there it is! ( WAS )  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
Whoomp there it is!  Ole Man | 07/17/07
And your point is..?  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
Plenty of points there  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Here's a clue, not everyone is supposed to  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Here's a clue  Ole Man | 07/17/07
New Clue for intrepi@...  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Just curious - why do you hate linux ?  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
I'll Bite  wolf_z | 07/17/07
What a rather odd story...  Cayble | 07/17/07
See MacVet's post below  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Really...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
But, Have You Considered reality?  LegendsOfBatman | 07/17/07
RE: But, Have You Considered reality?  Axsimulate | 07/18/07
There is none so blind...  MacVet | 07/16/07
Blind is he who can't see  Loverock Davidson | 07/17/07
So freakin' what???!  macbill | 07/17/07
I think it's easy  FatherJ | 07/17/07
Does that include a week with Patch Tuesday ???/  mrlinux | 07/17/07
could we...  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
What are you smoking?  BFD | 07/17/07
Your kidding right?  cliffwilliams_44@... | 07/17/07
And how are you any different?  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
RE: And how are you any different?  Axsimulate | 07/18/07
Re: "total administration costs near zero."  Jack-Booted EULA | 07/16/07
well...  zoroaster | 07/17/07
You're kidding, right?  lisacate@... | 07/17/07
Its not my intention  Loverock Davidson | 07/17/07
And you fail  macbill | 07/17/07
Calm down!  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 07/16/07
I'm calm  Loverock Davidson | 07/17/07
Some things have changed  nucrash | 07/17/07
Wrong name  TTGIT Guy | 07/17/07
Don't be so sure!!  jakenhauser | 07/17/07
I like Vista  ARiggz | 07/17/07
Though I agree.....  cashaww | 07/17/07
companys making the switch  madmax_2069 | 07/17/07
Might want to check some facts.  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
Absolutely, 100% wrong. Administration costs for Windows...  olePigeon | 07/17/07
Sorry...  cliffwilliams_44@... | 07/17/07
You need to fire yourself  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I'm not an accountant  cliffwilliams_44@... | 07/17/07
So where is the Linux union?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
supply and demand  desamuelson | 07/18/07
supply and demand.... Too much in the pot  Ole Man | 07/18/07
CALs fees are not adminstrative costs.  ye | 07/17/07
At my company, the answer was YES  critic-at-arms | 07/17/07
Good for you  cliffwilliams_44@... | 07/17/07
What Kind of Company  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
I agree to an extent.  Qix77 | 07/17/07
There you have it  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Hardware cost is irrelavent  cliffwilliams_44@... | 07/17/07
It doesn't even sound good in this forum.  ye | 07/17/07
Hardware cost is irrelavent  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I wish you would speak for yourself  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Baloney  Jambalaya Breath | 07/17/07
People are already migrating  MacGeek2121 | 08/09/07
I hate to say it BUT  Shelendrea | 07/16/07
Windows ME was not a business OS  Michael Kelly | 07/16/07
I think Vista has some issues but MS is the biggest problem  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Vista is a new OS, ME is a tacky addon to 95/98  CobraA1 | 07/16/07
Re: Vista is a whole new OS  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 07/16/07
The reason is this  Azriphale | 07/17/07
WELL no one made them  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
haha  Khyron | 07/17/07
Simple answer  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
ME is just 95/98 with a few stupid additions...  handydan918 | 07/17/07
If you're gonna say something - at least try making sense...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
No it isn't. Vista is based off Windows Server. [nt]  olePigeon | 07/17/07
Windows ME was quickly followed by Win2000, which, was a very good product  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
actually......  JoeMama_z | 07/16/07
W2000 was good ...  zoroaster | 07/17/07
Win2000  Azriphale | 07/17/07
Donnie - you're scaring me.  Wolfie2K3 | 07/17/07
Our little boy is growing up . . . wink nt  JLHenry | 07/17/07
Me worked  voska | 07/16/07
ME  Crestview | 07/17/07
Windows WHAT?  zoroaster | 07/17/07
Times have changed  icarus7b | 07/17/07
cause  madmax_2069 | 07/17/07
Huh?  3dtodd | 07/17/07
Linux  Khyron | 07/17/07
ME was not a business OS  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Microsoft didn't try to force ME on business users.  keepu | 07/25/07
The kewl thing...  dpnewkirk | 07/16/07
Just read a similiar article on Lifehacker.com  Tigertank | 07/16/07
Not on a Business Level, but on a Personal User Level It Might  DaffyDuck | 07/16/07
Agreed, no mass migrations, but even losing 10% to OSX/Linux will be a BIG  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Problem for MS or boon for industry?  jasonp@... | 07/17/07
Old news  Jambalaya Breath | 07/17/07
Ubuntu Feisty Fawn for Personal Use  mcucylowsky@... | 07/16/07
Goog on you  bbbaldie_z | 07/17/07
Me too !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
They have THUNDERBIRD for  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
Businesses should think beyond the now  putt1ck | 07/17/07
Thank you, putt1ck  dstam | 07/17/07
Linux? Yes. Macs? No way!  NonZealot | 07/16/07
Microsoft Office  frgough | 07/16/07
Microsoft office is becoming less important as we move away from printed  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
moving away?  desamuelson | 07/18/07
Well, yes, now would be the perfect time for Apple to start supporting  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
won't happen  zoroaster | 07/17/07
Cheaper hardware means sub-par performance   | 07/17/07
Mac mini ???  madmax_2069 | 07/17/07
Oh yes  nucrash | 07/17/07
Some clarification  Chad_z | 07/16/07
worked overtime today didn't you? (NT)  Non-Zealand | 07/16/07
Well, I for one can say, I'm not convinced.  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 07/16/07
I don't have to convince you...  UbiquitousGeek | 07/17/07
Not quite 'end of story', UGeek  TechinMN | 07/17/07
Desktops are about usability.  josephmartins | 07/17/07
here is a 100% pro MS fan  madmax_2069 | 07/17/07
Are you posting from a mac.  ThereThere | 07/17/07
33 Mac users  Crestview | 07/17/07
The only reason why  nucrash | 07/17/07
trying to convince a linux fan that  royalstream | 07/17/07
Wyse thin-client infrastructures ; TRON  mighetto | 07/16/07
Bingo. Given the way business is going, is Vista meant to expedite this?  HypnoToad72 | 07/16/07
The reason Linux is not a contender  Michael Kelly | 07/16/07
Still, it is entirely conceivable that MS will lose 10% in the transition  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Who is this person...  BFD | 07/17/07
Here, now!!!  JLHenry | 07/17/07
I agree  docbillnet | 07/17/07
Not to divert the topic, but . . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
Dell more expensive than Mac?  MacFan7388 | 07/16/07
People don't care  voska | 07/16/07
Statements about "FEATURES"  Laff | 07/16/07
Yes, Mac is well positioned right now, and, the price of the hardware is  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Yup  Mectron | 07/16/07
If a company jumps off the . . .  JLHenry | 07/16/07
FUNNY!  Laff | 07/17/07
erm..  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
I have the latest Solaris  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
I have reached the same conclusion with Dell  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
don't blame you there  Drakaran | 07/19/07
Try Parallels  tcguru | 07/19/07
No they certainly are not!  JayMonster | 07/19/07
Linux lacks:  MacFan7388 | 07/16/07
Wrong, wrong, and wrong  NonZealot | 07/16/07
Bonjour isn't proprietary  rpmyers1 | 07/16/07
Zealot  People | 07/16/07
In this case . . .  JLHenry | 07/16/07
Untrue  People | 07/16/07
I was not refering to . . .  JLHenry | 07/16/07
Oops. That's funny. (NT)  People | 07/17/07
You will find that Ubuntu is a much easier switch from Windows than Mac.  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Ubuntu  People | 07/16/07
Think Ubuntu is still too broken..  SmartCookie | 07/17/07
Uneducated MacFan  yyuko@... | 07/16/07
NeoOffice  People | 07/16/07
Linux lacks: ?  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
SPOT ON!!!!!!................  btljooz | 07/18/07
Linux Lacks??  scottlaycock@... | 07/17/07
Have you... ?  Necrolin | 07/18/07
Until third party apps start porting...  bjbrock | 07/16/07
Wine is getting a lot better these days, and anything  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Which apps can't you find?  critic-at-arms | 07/17/07
Ubuntu replaces Vista on Laptop  NewEnergyWorks | 07/16/07
Your on serious Medication  Herc@... | 07/17/07
So you do not like Ubuntu !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
You're a lifetime Windows user, right?  Jambalaya Breath | 07/17/07
No A Life Time OS USer  Herc@... | 07/25/07
He couldn't take his meds  Ole Man | 07/18/07
Nope.  HypnoToad72 | 07/16/07
Not proper to call it emulation. Wine is basically like another versoion  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
Would be nice, but still too much MS lock-in. . .  Basic Logic | 07/16/07
Not quite that dire. Wine will run many of the applications in question  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
This is a non-starter. Windows has a monopoly, there are zero choices.  PB_z | 07/16/07
Things change over time. Even monopolies can be weakened as technology  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
You either have a monopoly or you don't  PB_z | 07/16/07
Wow, I hope you are not a lawyer  MarcB_z | 07/17/07
Thank goodness Apple was founded in 2005!  NonZealot | 07/17/07
Apple is a lot more of a threat now. OSX is the real thing, and getting  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
*raises hand*  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
No that is not true  MarcB_z | 07/17/07
Ssshh, you can't mention that  Boot_Agnostic | 07/19/07
LOL  tonymcs@... | 07/16/07
Right, MS would like it if nobody fixed it, but, that ain't a gonna happen.  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
I loaded a LIVE CD  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
That's greatness...  KWierso | 07/18/07
Ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I know these guys...  Mike Cox | 07/16/07
0.01 I think Mike is losing his touch.  DonnieBoy | 07/16/07
can you score negative points?  nix_hed | 07/17/07
this article has nothing to do with linux  kenedy.j | 07/16/07
No - XP is STILL available  WiredGuy | 07/16/07
XP?  wjgrimm | 07/17/07
And now MS is selling hardware to OEM?  desamuelson | 07/18/07
Drivers  wjgrimm | 07/18/07
Vista is ME2  gil28@... | 07/16/07
RE: Vista is ME2  Warlock104 | 07/18/07
That's a HUGE plus  mdsmedia | 07/19/07
The solution? Linux with Citrix running Windows Apps  johnf76@... | 07/16/07
People will swap  mrjonno | 07/17/07
heterogeneously robust  PinnacomX | 07/17/07
"heterogeneously robust"  winkywain | 07/17/07
Kinda not really  Boot_Agnostic | 07/17/07
This article is dumb  notsofast | 07/17/07
I agree with 123...who is upgrading and why?  jledbetter | 07/17/07
Interesting thought, but obviously from a pc user...  ladyirol | 07/18/07
Very well said.  Qix77 | 07/17/07
I'll second that motion!  CodeBubba | 07/17/07
Anything is dumb, if you don't understand it?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Not likely !  ihfwt | 07/17/07
Linux & Macintosh has a LOT of work do  jfreedle2@... | 07/17/07
Everything is easy if you know how to use it !  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
BULL  Crestview | 07/17/07
Apple is gaining market share and about everyone is predicting it will  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
Again, your ignorance is showing  GuidingLight | 07/17/07
Seems like Mac users have been surviving just fine for years WITHOUT any  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
Getting a little sick of the Windows attacks  SmartCookie | 07/17/07
although....  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
Well, I think they are just pointing out that the high cost and complexity  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
sick of the Windows  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Agreed  Boot_Agnostic | 07/23/07
PURE CRAP  sackbut | 07/17/07
Apple is doing quite well these days, and market share gains are expected  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
Save Billions of Dollars  pvhastings | 07/17/07
Im in.  bugginmiami@... | 07/17/07
If you try that Mac...  ladyirol | 07/18/07
Wow!!  spikedstrider | 07/17/07
Doubtful unless ...  mwtimpe@... | 07/17/07
Well, you give examples where, given enough advantes, people WILL switch  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
ZDNET must pay for responses?  crypt2121 | 07/17/07
You conveniently ignore that Mac is gaining, and Vista is getting a luke  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
And the 'free' tools aren't free  Camwood | 07/17/07
Right, but if you look at the millions a company might have to pay MS, and  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
And the 'free' support isn't free  Camwood | 07/17/07
Not enough apps  Crestview | 07/17/07
Most Win32 apps will run under Wine for the transition. Also, we are in the  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
I like the way you supported your  Jambalaya Breath | 07/17/07
"as heterogeneously robust"???  scott1329 | 07/17/07
Barrier for entry...  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/17/07
33% more expensive?  rhon@... | 07/17/07
33% more expensive?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
OSS  kevinr@... | 07/17/07
Vista more likely to increase demand for XP SP3  ramnet@... | 07/17/07
Vista is Pathetic!  JohnnyBee | 07/17/07
It's already happening BIG TIME...  CowLauncher | 07/17/07
Right....... already happening  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Switched already to MacBookPro. No going back...  fatcoach@... | 07/17/07
Stupid Article, Again  pvhastings | 07/17/07
What the story fails to account for...  antares256 | 07/17/07
But, the difference between Ubuntu and XP is minimal. And, you can use  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
What?  People | 07/17/07
NBL - but NOT because Win OR *ix OR Mac is best  jkratzer3 | 07/17/07
Switchover costs are a one time expense. Accountants understand that very  DonnieBoy | 07/17/07
switch to apple  sadlerb | 07/17/07
The only reason people run Windows  rjpotts | 07/17/07
Nope  timmeh64 | 07/17/07
I hope your budget is BIG !  jackie40d@... | 07/17/07
how big?  desamuelson | 07/18/07
No Way!!!!!!!  kghdu | 07/17/07
You should research before you blow out hot air!  ladyirol | 07/18/07
Reasons.....  desamuelson | 07/17/07
Vista sent me to Ubuntu  gkdubs | 07/17/07
Why Switch?  benoddo | 07/17/07
Here's a real-world example  the_doge | 07/17/07
Not just the cost  mm8ball@... | 07/17/07
I needed a laugh!  Narg | 07/17/07
Here's a good chuckle for you  Ole Man | 07/17/07
News flash  rhomp2002@... | 07/17/07
Microsoft : The Fall From Grace  Ole Man | 07/17/07
It's causing ME to switch to Mac. That's for sure.  3dtodd | 07/17/07
Microsoft Does Not Care  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Mistake!  Ole Man | 07/17/07
VIRUS  BALTHOR | 07/17/07
Virus? Back Door? Spy?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Why does Vista take so much to run???  eye4bear | 07/17/07
No One Really Cares - HONEST  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
We bought four Macs in the past year  pointzerotwo@... | 07/17/07
when I first started using vista  toolman1 | 07/17/07
NO we will just stay with XP or Vista  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
Linux to Vista upgrade?  Alan(UK) | 07/17/07
STOP!!!!  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
"They really do not care about YOU"  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I have a question for you . . . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
Wow 4 Macs and 50 PCs  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
How you gonna give a correct answer?  Ole Man | 07/17/07
His numbers are low, too . . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
that was the point  desamuelson | 07/18/07
Your economic theories  Ole Man | 07/18/07
Correct in that is the assessment  Boot_Agnostic | 07/19/07
Vista ME deja vu  apoluo | 07/17/07
Cool  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
"you just do not matter to Redmond!!"  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Funny . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
Dunno!  Ole Man | 07/17/07
I have a feeling . . .  JLHenry | 07/17/07
It already has....  mikifinaz1@... | 07/17/07
Gosh  bkelly@... | 07/17/07
Gosh!  Ole Man | 07/17/07
Vista is useless to businesses...  goonrick@... | 07/17/07
Switch?  jakable@... | 07/17/07
LIVING VIRUS  BALTHOR | 07/17/07
Vista, Mac, Linux - which do I choose?  paul5082 | 07/17/07
I have basically the same system  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
Give Ubuntu a Shot  Wayne Reid | 07/17/07
Cost of free software  chromeronin | 07/17/07
The Best Reasons To Abandon Microsoft  Cardhu | 07/17/07
Are you referring to MS's support in India ?  intrepi@... | 07/17/07
and why not Open Office?  steve.colorado@... | 07/17/07
Open Office Stinks  ceh4702 | 07/18/07
In what way  tracy anne | 07/18/07
It's more or less equal to Microsoft Office  Boot_Agnostic | 07/23/07
Not likely...in any great quantity  8string | 07/17/07
Vista should not be used for other reasons  The_Curmudgeon | 07/17/07
Vista .... The wrong Upgrade for Business  Evisscerator | 07/18/07
Vista is fully-written by MS payroll  bcroner | 07/18/07
Greg  Zinzanzum | 07/18/07
Mac cost a Red Herring - FUD  dlmeyer@... | 07/18/07
The economics of it  mlrodman@... | 07/18/07
Vista Made me start switching to Ubuntu  JustMe2007 | 07/18/07
Stick to XP or Move to Linux  FlatAffect | 07/18/07
Yes I believe so....  bmc@... | 07/19/07
Not Possible However Pathetic is Vista  Aaron A Baker | 07/19/07
"Microsoft has always been dependable"???  Ole Man | 07/19/07
Vista Works Great for me!!  Stan57 | 07/23/07
Buy DELL - Avoid HP, etc/BOYCOTT VISTA  XweAponX | 07/19/07
Linux is Looking Better Every Day................  RonMan811@... | 07/19/07
Hehe..  dayjm | 07/19/07
Homemade PC's  grumnut@... | 07/19/07
Unfair advantage  Update victim | 07/19/07
From NeXT to Mac OSX  OmarHash | 07/22/07
Double-Speak Hall of Fame!!  JoeBob_z | 07/22/07
It works for some  Camwood | 07/25/07
Absolutely  melekali | 08/09/07
Vista was and is good to us...  mames1701 | 08/10/07
It doesn't matter any more.  sysop-dr | 08/10/07

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