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To prime21 about pathetic existence. I have the mirror - take a look in.
prime21 wrote: ?Ya, OK. We said. "Saddam, go attck
Kuwait. We want to see those oil prices go sky high. So
make sure you cause havoc down there! As you know,
we're an evil nation, and we only want to see others
suffer. Attack! Attack! Attack Kuwait!!! We, your evil
master command you to attack!!! AhhhhhhhHHHHHH!!!
We are American and thus we are blood thirsty
savages!!! ATTACK!!!!!"

What a joke. Friend, your existance is pathetic.?
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Let?s see.

Using common sense we can say that Ambassador to
Iraq April Glaspie was instructed by the Bush
Administration ? talk to Saddam (he was a US ally) the
way that he could interpret as U.S. approval for the
invasion of Kuwait (artificially created misperception to
get official reasons to war). The reason ? Bush and Co
interests in oil should be expand for the expense of
Americans.

Saddam was not a stupid guy and understood US
official ?wishes? correctly and did not think about true
intentions of the Bush Administration. He believed in
U.S. but was betrayed by U.S.

Thus, American diplomacy engages not prevention but
military actions.

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Transcript of Meeting Between Iraqi President, Saddam
Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie:

Two years later, during NBC News Decision '92's 3rd
round of The Presidential Debate, 1992 presidential
candidate Ross Perot was quoted as saying:

"...we told him he could take the northern part of Kuwait;
and when he took the whole thing we went nuts. And if
we didn't tell him that, why won't we even let the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate
Intelligence Committee see the written instructions for
Ambassador Glaspie? - "

At this point, he was interrupted by former president
George Bush who yelled:

"I've got to reply on that. That gets to the National
Honour!... That is absolutely absurd!"
http://www.mideastfacts.com/saddam_glaspie.html

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/
institutional_analysis/saddam.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/
april.html
http://www.brothersjudd.com/blog/archives/006997.html
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Assistant Secretary of State John Kelly:

--On July 31, Kelly denied Kuwait three times before a
House foreign affairs subcommittee. "Historically, the
U.S. has taken no position on the border disputes in the
area, not on matters pertaining to internal OPEC
deliberations."

"We have no defense treaty relationship with any gulf
country. That is clear . . . we have not historically taken
a position on border disputes."

Representative Lee Hamilton (D-Ind.) asked Kelly, if it
would be correct to say that, if Iraq invaded Kuwait, the
United States would not be obligated to commit its
military forces in Kuwait's defense.

Kelly replied, "That is correct."

These statements all sent a consistent and
accommodating message to Saddam.
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/1991/02/02-08-
91tdc/02-08-91dops-column-01.asp
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James Akins, the American Saudi Ambassador at the
time, offered a slightly different perspective, in a 2000
PBS interview: "[Glaspie] took the straight American
line, which is we do not take positions on border
disputes between friendly countries. That's standard.
That's what you always say. You would not have said,
"Mr. President, if you really are considering invading
Kuwait, by God, we'll bring down the wrath of God on
your palaces, and on your country, and you'll all be
destroyed." She wouldn't say that, nor would I. Neither
would any diplomat."

Glaspie has remained silent on the subject of her
actions in Iraq, apparently allowing herself to be made
a scapegoat for the failure of the Bush administration to
forsee or prevent the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
http://www.fact-index.com/a/ap/april_glaspie.html

OPEC keeps the price of oil stable by limiting how
much oil each OPEC member country can produce. In
1989, after the end of the Iran-Iraq War, Kuwait
suddenly exceeds its quotas by 20 percent, driving the
price of oil down on the world market. As a result of
Kuwait's production hike, Iraq lost almost a third of its oil
income at a time when Iraq was desperate for money.
Saddam felt that Kuwait was stabbing him in the back.

The US publicly claims that there are no special
defense or security commitments to Kuwait. Why would
the US claim they had no defense agreements with
Kuwait?

On August 2, 1990, convinced the US Government
would not interfere, Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait.
While US officials express shock and surprise, the
Pentagon is ready for action--having rehearsed this
very situation for several months prior to Iraq's attack on
Kuwait. Norman Schwarzkopf claims that the US
military happen to be conducting a Command Post
Exercises in the Gulf Region at the same time the crises
developed in the Gulf. But US Marine officers had been
telling their soldiers they had known about the invasion
of Kuwait for two years.
http://www.geocities.com/hal9000report/hal80.html
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Days before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the American
Ambassador, April Glaspie, met with Saddam as he
was massing forces along the Kuwaiti border. She told
him that Secretary of State James Baker wanted him to
understand that the United States took no position on
Arab-Arab disputes, like his border dispute with Kuwait,
though we preferred they be resolved peacefully. A
yellow light to invasion.

She also expressed the sympathy of an anti-colonial
power with Saddam's denunciations of the "colonialist"
map-making after World War I that had annexed
portions of what he regarded as Iraq to Kuwait. Saddam
could easily have mistaken that for a green light.

If he had seized only the disputed territory and not the
whole of Kuwait, Saddam might still be our reliably
ferocious counter to Iran in the Gulf. His deeds were not
what made him Hitler to U.S. officials. (Senator
Simpson, the Wyoming Republican, told Saddam in
1990 that he sympathized with his complaints that the
Western press was exaggerating his mass murders.
They weren't that bad.) What made him "Hitler"
overnight was oil. Somewhere on the road between the
Kuwaiti provinces that we seemed set to let him occupy
and Kuwait City, Saddam Hussein became a threat to
the American standard of living.
http://www.why-war.com/news/2002/10/23/
pearlhar.html
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In late July, 1990 , as negotiations between Iraq and
Kuwait stalled, Iraq amassed troops on Kuwait's
borders and summoned American ambassador April
Glaspie for an unanticipated meeting with Iraqi
President Saddam Hussein. In that meeting, Saddam
outlined his grievances against Kuwait, while promising
that he would not invade Kuwait before one more round
of negotiations. Although Glaspie expressed concern
over the troop buildup, some people perceived her
answers as giving tacit approval for an invasion, by
saying that the US "[has] no opinion on the Arab-Arab
conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait"
(from the Iraqi transcript of the meeting, as published in
Sifry).

To emphasize this point, she also said at the meeting,
"James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to
emphasize this instruction." Although ambassador
Glaspie shortly after left the foreign service, US sources
say that she had handled everything "by the book" and
had not signaled Iraqi President Saddam Hussein any
approval for defying the Arab League's Jeddah crisis
squad which conducted the negotiations.

However, Saddam's expectations may have been
preoccupied by the perception that the US just at this
time was approving the reunification of Germany,
another act that he considered to be nothing more than
the nullification of an artificial, internal border.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
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In July 1990, only days before Iraq invaded Kuwait,
U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie met with Saddam
Hussein and told him, on behalf of President George H.
W. Bush that "we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab
conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait."
Some analysts believe Saddam Hussein interpreted
this as a green light for Iraq to invade Kuwait. Whether it
was meant to be a green light or not, what it wasn't was
a clear statement that the U.S. opposed such an
invasion.
http://www.ips-dc.org/iraq/primer4.htm#35

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civil liberties:
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Iran-Iraq War
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War
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blahblahblah, ShadeTree gave you a good advise he was followed. (NT)  Vily Clay | 05/13/04
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No_Ax_to_Grind, you did not pass the test. I am very sorry. (NT)  Vily Clay | 05/13/04
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