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This issue is much bigger than HP
What the poster -ITTech001- may not realize is that the tactics used by the security company hired by HP represent the tip of the data mining iceberg.

Police now routinely obtain phone records using pretexting - something that legally requires a warrant. A warrant protects the person being investigated because they must be notified that their records have been requested. With pretexting, that legal notification never occurs limiting the ability of the person being investigated to protect and defend their legal rights. And if you think the police never make mistakes you may want to educate yourself on what happens when they do.

Pretexting is also used by debt collectors, private investigators, potential employers, current employers and gosh know who else which is a huge violation of consumer/employee privacy rights. What you may not realize in this case is that the phone records of people not even remotely connected to the HP case (spouses, friends, associates etc.) also had their privacy violated. Do you also feel that it is okay to blame these unwitting victims?

It is extremely naive to characterize this as just a case of journalists getting their comeuppance. This is a much, much bigger issue that could affect you one day "Without your knowledge". I hope everyone who had their privacy violated sues HP and that those responsible at HP and the security company are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And I hope those useless congressman and senators get off their bloated, corporately-sponsored behinds and do the work they were elected to do. It is unbvelievable how many "pretexting" laws have died a sudden and untimely death. Who says fat campaign donations don't pay for themselves.
Posted by: sandawana   Posted on: 09/21/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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And...  opensourcepro | 09/21/06
So what?  JackPastor | 09/21/06
No, but it would be nice to think  ebrke | 09/21/06
What Fiasco ?!  YukonRay | 09/21/06
Not a Fiasco?  adsanders@... | 09/21/06
Patriot Act  YukonRay | 09/22/06
Hurd's line in the sand  marileev@... | 09/21/06
Not exactly illegal, OR morally incorrect...  Scrat | 09/21/06
Which IP address ???  JackPastor | 09/24/06
HP has my vote  ITTech001 | 09/21/06
This issue is much bigger than HP  sandawana | 09/21/06
It will surprise you, but I generally agree  ITTech001 | 09/21/06
ZDNet needs you!  sandbagger | 09/21/06
So let me get this straight...  Cayble | 09/21/06
Why is HP's conduct any concern of yours?  YukonRay | 09/21/06
You have got to be kidding me?  Cayble | 11/12/06
Stand Up and Take a Stand!  YukonRay | 09/21/06
Difference between Celebrity vs. Business Journalism  MerBrans | 09/21/06
Uh-huh, riiigght  Lord Talon | 09/21/06
Journalism  ITTech001 | 09/21/06
This one doesn't bother me  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Question about "pretext"  YukonRay | 09/21/06
Spelling  tawnyy | 09/21/06
It's illegal in California  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Bait and Switch issue.  Cayble | 11/12/06
Assigning responsibility  PJMonaco@... | 09/21/06
Many ironies  outtanames999 | 09/21/06
Yellow Journalism  rkendsley | 09/21/06
Hurd has operational control of the compay  John L. Ries | 09/21/06
Are we really surprised...?  bayny | 09/21/06
Black and White Journalism  mighetto | 09/21/06
You missed the point.  YukonRay | 09/21/06
Yellow Journalism vs Advertisement vs Pay for Content  mighetto | 09/21/06
Finding a corporate thief is a good thing?  ladyirol | 09/21/06
Job of a CEO  JackPastor | 09/21/06
Data Harvesting!  ladyirol | 09/21/06
If Hurd knew about it - he should be fired!  numbersguy@... | 09/22/06
If Hurd knew about it - he should be fired!  numbersguy@... | 09/22/06
another email as evidence  schwana | 09/22/06

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