On TV.com: MEGAN FOX photos
BNET Business Network:
BNET
TechRepublic
ZDNet
TalkBack 27 of 36:
Next »
« Previous
Point by point
If the patent is upheld, then obviously it does have merit. That's the way our system works, if the courts say it's valid, it's valid and you have to live with it no matter what. I still won't like it, but will accept it.

This is why I distinguish between legal merit and "layman" merit (or whatever one might want to call it). I put 0 weight on the end result of a case when it comes to my personal determination of a case's "layman" merit. I think any case involving the look and feel of something like a computer case is without merit, even if the courts, in their infinite wisdom, disagree.

Note that such a decision would screw over every single portable music player on the planet, including all of those wonderful "Plays For Sure" partners who would be next in line for injunctions and lawsuits.

That's okay, I don't have a "Plays For Sure" device, nor do I plan on getting one.

The suit was about the shape, the form factor, the overall design.

The shape? It was shaped like a monitor. The form factor? LOT'S of computers had integrated the screen into the case, all the way back to old terminals. The overall design? Other than material, shape, and form factor, what else is there? Things like this are very subjective. You probably put more importance on the look and feel of a computer than I do (the less I see of my computer case, the better!). As such, you probably feel that copying that look and feel is a more egregious violation than I would. I suppose that is why I have difficulty understanding why you don't give the same respect to Creative's look and feel of their hierarchical menu system. Perhaps a case could be made that this shouldn't be a patent issue and more of a "trade dress" issue? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer (obviously).

Don't know that this would pass the "novelty" requirements for a patent.

Fair enough. As I said above, perhaps this shouldn't be a patentable issue. However, that doesn't mean that Apple didn't pilfer the look and feel of Creative's menu system in the same way that eMachine's use of an integrated monitor in a clear case was a pilfering of iMac's look and feel.

you do have strong biases (as do we all)

Yup, I don't pretend to hide mine. While I like her products, I am biased against Apple, mostly because I feel that she (and most of her users) seem to hold her up to a different standard than they do MS. In my opinion, she is just as "rotten" (as much as a business can be rotten?) as MS is without the power to actually be noticed. Apple advertising spreads as much FUD about Microsoft as Microsoft does about Linux, and I use FUD in the proper sense: an attack that has a grain of truth but is mostly spin.
Posted by: NonZealot   Posted on: 06/14/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
Reply to Story No further replies to this post will be accepted.

Alert moderator to an offensive message

Subscribe to this discussion via Email or RSS

This is a good one!  Palmyra | 06/14/06
They're both trying  DemonX | 06/14/06
Me I would not be surprised if a certain American company  Laff | 06/14/06
Now why would that be?  Confused by religion | 06/14/06
Yes, a good possibility  MacCanuck | 06/14/06
Not everything involves black helicopters...  John Zern | 06/14/06
It also doesn't mean  MacCanuck | 06/14/06
Depends on how you look at it  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Kind of like...  Rick_K | 06/14/06
Hey Laff, read this!  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Don't forget the nano scratch issue  MacCanuck | 06/15/06
Well you began OK but they you went off the edge.  Laff | 06/14/06
Then why bring in MS?  NonZealot | 06/14/06
You know I never actually mentioned MS by name...  Laff | 06/15/06
I take it all back Laff!  NonZealot | 06/15/06
Because based on they short history they are a bunch  Laff | 06/15/06
Dot Connection  DannyO_0x98 | 06/14/06
iPods have been around for years  Roger Ramjet | 06/14/06
Obvious business reasons  tic swayback | 06/14/06
Non-story  tic swayback | 06/14/06
So when is Apple going to sell off their stock?  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Apple won that suit  tic swayback | 06/14/06
Do us all a favour please?  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Do me a favor please  tic swayback | 06/14/06
Ouch!  NonZealot | 06/14/06
I will judge it based on the merits of the individual case  tic swayback | 06/14/06
Point by point  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Merit versus acceptance  tic swayback | 06/14/06
Then there is nothing to worry about  NonZealot | 06/14/06
Zealot...because of the "Human" factor.  Laff | 06/15/06
Double Ouch  MacCanuck | 06/15/06
re: MacCanuck  NonZealot | 06/15/06
NZ--settling is always cheaper than going to court...  tic swayback | 06/15/06
COMPLETE Zealot - STOP WASTING OUR TIME WITH YOUR BS - NT  raycote | 06/14/06
Awww, pumpkin!  NonZealot | 06/14/06
U.S International Trade Commission wastes time/money  Omch'Ar | 06/14/06

What do you think?

SponsoredWhite Papers, Webcasts, and Downloads

advertisement

SmartPlanet

Click Here