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osreinstall, this has nothing to do with the old NCs!
Schwartz is talking about smartphones (those that run WindowsCE, PalmOS, Symbian, Linux, ...), these are small multifunction computers that are small enugh to fit in the palm of your hand! He is not discussing PCs that aqre used to run CAD applications, but rather small devices that the majority in the Notrthern hemisphere and many in the Southers have and use every day! Some peole even use them as tehir primary phone (as I do, no land lines).

You appear to not understand the market in question, this is not for people who are dong number crundhing on localhost, they are not for people running can on them, they are phones! Do you have a cell phone that runs WindowsCE or Symbian or PalmOS? That is the platform that heis suggetsing will be dominant!

Because of the size of the devices, they are prime for network based applications, Web Services, and similar bsuiness uses (email, instant messaging, SMS/MMS). They are phones! No one want to use a phone to do AutoCAD (except maybe you)!

More people have mobile phones than computers, this is the market thathe is discussing as a tarhet for hosted applications, I can find you a list of some of the hosted appliactions even!

See: http://www.vertical.com/
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Tiny keyboard  3D0G | 09/24/05
The PC as we know it is changing.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
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I agree  darreno1 | 09/25/05
PC's are yesterday because Sun doesn't profit from them  balsover | 09/23/05
No, PCs have a lot of disadvantages. Number one is administration & backup.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
PCs are not going away  netrayder | 09/26/05
Network computer are decades old technology  osreinstall | 09/23/05
Voting "No"  IT_User | 09/23/05
But you have to be connected  osreinstall | 09/23/05
Clarification  osreinstall | 09/23/05
True, and that was a problem  IT_User | 09/25/05
It will always be a symbol of freedom  osreinstall | 09/25/05
It is a lot easier to lump a phone and folding keyboard..  B.O.F.H. | 09/23/05
Bah  CobraA1 | 09/23/05
I want my PC to do anything I want.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
The article is about smartphones, not thin clients (NC).  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Whatever Dude  osreinstall | 09/24/05
You don't get it, do you?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
You never have.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, is AutoCAD the only application that you know/use?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Is receptionist programs the only ones you know about.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, this has nothing to do with the old NCs!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
The article was not very specific  osreinstall | 09/25/05
You are ignoring advancing technology.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
You are ignoring retreating prices.  Knorthern Knight | 09/24/05
You are ignoring administration and backup costs.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Technology is advancing there also  CobraA1 | 09/24/05
i agree  netrayder | 09/26/05
what do network cozthat can fit in yourmputer have to do with smartphones?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Subject line got hammered....  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Schwartz is talking about elimination of the PC  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Taking care of a PC is NOT easy. And they have limited storage and power.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
I think you are confused, NC's are gone!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Maybe for you it isn't.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
There is no bandwidth BOFH.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
The network is getting more reliable and faster and cheaper every day  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Tried a few  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, do you know how to sue a phone?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
BOFH, Do you know how to tunafish?  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Re: Taking care of a PC is NOT that easy  CobraA1 | 09/25/05
Her new HP laptop has not crashed yet, 3 months and counting.  DonnieBoy | 09/25/05
so cellphone/comps are going to be unreliable  netrayder | 09/26/05
Terminals were very expensive also  osreinstall | 09/24/05
With LTSP, terminals are dirt cheap now, even with new hardware.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Not enough bandwith on LAN for heavy engineering  osreinstall | 09/24/05
LTSP words extremely well for all common applications.  DonnieBoy | 09/25/05
No it doesn't  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Sure.......  tslocum7 | 09/26/05
or leave in the hard drive  netrayder | 09/26/05
That works too  IT_User | 09/26/05
PCs are very expensive  IT_User | 09/25/05
And so is the Mainframe to connect to.  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Mainframe?  IT_User | 09/25/05
Or a cluster  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Sounds reasonable  IT_User | 09/26/05
i've used nc's, they suck  netrayder | 09/26/05
Fit to the situation  IT_User | 09/26/05
You are way wrong  osreinstall | 09/24/05
We will have cached applications. So it all works ofline.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
There isn't enough bandwidth period.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
My network connection keeps getting faster and more reliable.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Let me know when you hit 1000 mbs then well talk.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Search, email, google earch, online ordering, work find with DSL and Cable  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
You must have stock in Sun only.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
terabytes of online storage  netrayder | 09/26/05
no 404 errors?  netrayder | 09/26/05
He's SOME wrong  IT_User | 09/26/05
He wasn't too technically specific  osreinstall | 09/26/05
What planet do you live on?  JimSatterfieldW | 09/27/05
Betcha Paul Murphy would just love this happy  Mark Miller | 09/24/05
Every NEW TECH always predicted to obliterate the old...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 09/24/05
Perhaps  3D0G | 09/24/05
He is referring to smartphones.  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Spreadsheets?  3D0G | 09/24/05
You should look at more phones!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Point taken  3D0G | 09/25/05
We will have new catagories of applications online, that do NOT work ofline  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Which complements more than it negates  CobraA1 | 09/26/05
hear hear  netrayder | 09/26/05
google search taxing your computer?  netrayder | 09/26/05
The MAIN reason that PCs  James Dean_z | 09/24/05
Servers can run on PCs and phones  Casandro | 09/25/05
Businesses are different from individuals  B.O.F.H. | 09/25/05
So Sun is making a priority of the poor people...  Anton Philidor | 09/24/05
Sun is so pathetic  andyhayes1 | 09/24/05
Don't we hear all of this before???  glennhkboy | 09/25/05
Yup.  CobraA1 | 09/25/05
Sun is So Yesterday  John Zern | 09/25/05
Some of it sound, but not Sun  Boot_Agnostic | 09/26/05
Can't sell to Desktops, call them relic's  maddog@... | 09/26/05
I want my stuff on my machine  rmansfield | 09/26/05
SUN is so yesterday!  Protector | 09/26/05
Are they still selling "the network is the computer"?  JonathonDoe | 09/26/05
Heard this before.  tslocum7 | 09/26/05

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