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Yes compilers are hard, and the Itanium puts all the work on the compiler
I love your statement:

"Third, compiler advances have not even been fully tapped to exploit perforamnce improvement."

Almost every defense of VLIW and earlier parallel architectures stated the same thing, "If the damm compiler guy's would just do their job...". Well wouldn't you think after 40 years of trying some compiler guy would do it if it could be done for general purpose programs with current languages?

We do need fundamental research into better algorithms and approaches to parallism. But as somebody who has delivered a heck of a lot of compilers over the last 30 years, the compilers are not likely to answer the question for general purpose programs.

One of my old professors Dave Kuck pointed out that "If a program is 50% parallel (and this is a lot) then with perfict paralization you can double its speed". For those who don't remember Dave Kuck did the software for Illiac IV and a lot of the parallization that is in use today.
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The Problem With Itanium . . .  jjworleyeoe | 08/30/05
HP PA-RISC still shipping  dwjunix | 08/30/05
Yes, think Open Solaris on AMD x86-64  DonnieBoy | 08/31/05
Opteron beats Itanium by 250%  sharikou | 08/30/05
Truly unbeatable !  Prognosticator | 08/31/05
Unbiased link  Roger Ramjet | 08/31/05
Ok, show a different link  balsover | 08/31/05
What you don't know . . .  Roger Ramjet | 08/31/05
What you don't know about people  dwjunix | 08/31/05
Is almost as bad as folk knowledge  oldsysprog | 08/31/05
No flawed assumptions...  Prognosticator | 08/31/05
Yes compilers are hard, and the Itanium puts all the work on the compiler  oldsysprog | 08/31/05
Correct..as it should  Prognosticator | 08/31/05
You did not read my post  oldsysprog | 08/31/05
Thanks, I understand your post.  Prognosticator | 09/01/05
Yes, and x86-64 is still a whole lot cheaper, ask Google.  DonnieBoy | 08/31/05
Too Little, Too Late.  SimonSays | 08/31/05
The problem is, x86-64 is better and cheaper.  DonnieBoy | 08/31/05
Not necessarily for the reason stated  balsover | 08/31/05
Well, MIPS per dollar or MIPS per watt is what determines best.  DonnieBoy | 09/01/05
Another example of intel's...  wizzzer | 08/31/05
Itanium had failures on several fronts.  tyezek | 08/31/05
Some Misconceptions  Roger Ramjet | 09/01/05

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