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Funny how the EU and Japan have joined into a 20 year old food fight: Good one MJB

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/12/business/intel.php
"Last month, Advanced Micro Devices, a U.S. chip maker and longtime rival of Intel, said it had filed two suits against Intel in Tokyo, seeking $55 million in damages for alleged violations of Japanese antitrust laws. The suits, filed in two courts in Tokyo, are part of a two-decade battle between Intel, the world's largest maker of computer chips, and AMD."

"AMD has also filed a suit in the U.S. District Court in Delaware, saying Intel had coerced 38 companies, including Dell and Sony, as it took control of 90 percent of the revenue generated by microprocessor sales."

This rings of "court shopping" to me. I also found this intersting tidbit in the International Herald story.

"In March, the commission said it was investigating Intel in cooperation with the Japanese authorities, who have warned Intel about unfair business practices that it said were stifling competition in the Japanese chip marker."

Proves to me what I have been argiung for a while now. These companies AMD, Real are taking their cues from the old Netscape versus Internet Explorer food fight of if you cannot beat them sue them for antitrust violations. Combine this with the EU and Japan engaging in protectionism via the courts their targets are going to lose no matter what. There will be fines levied and will the consumers that are supposed to be the ones harmed receive any recompaense? Nope.; Posted by: Squawkbox Posted on: 07/12/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Hope the hostages were rescued safely Prognosticator | 07/12/05

Put your hands up and the stock portfolios down Boot_Agnostic | 07/12/05

EU ..... Things to do today Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Ammendments to the list Real World | 07/12/05

Funny how the EU and Japan have joined into a 20 year old food fight Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Lot's of money in US companies Prognosticator | 07/12/05

Noticed that trend also did you? Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Ho hum... Fred Fredrickson | 07/12/05

No Fred Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Hmmm... zkiwi | 07/12/05

i remember DemonX | 07/12/05

Antitrust Suits stop Power-Hungry Companies, WarHippy | 07/12/05

You have swallowed the hook line and sinker. Squawkbox | 07/13/05

...And I would have been the next to bite... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

One more to your list Prognosticator | 07/12/05

Right On, Finally, Someone who doesn't believe in...... WarHippy | 07/12/05

that's one way of looking at it unoriginal_sin | 07/12/05

Feel kind a bad about being a US citizen huh? Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Don't Make me start talking about Bauxite and the '70's The King's Servant | 07/12/05

I am well aware of that incident and it is wrong Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Sour Grapes?!? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Just out of morbid curiosity Squawkbox | 07/13/05

For your morbid [sic] curiosity... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

...To here, where? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Legislating from the bench ... lalogos | 07/12/05

BOO HOO : James Schroer | 07/12/05

M$ and Intel have been screwing us over in the IT world? Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Eloquently?? WarHippy | 07/12/05

OOOOO he cans say ARSE Squawkbox | 07/13/05

I have an AMD system... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

(How is that last paragraph for eloquence?) Squawkbox | 07/13/05

I guess you must be posting here without first reading? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

EU/UN.... Hey U | 07/12/05

What makes you think USA respects WTO? FirstNLastN | 07/12/05

RE: What makes you think USA respects WTO? Squawkbox | 07/12/05

Hey, You Forgot..... WarHippy | 07/12/05

You are so right scidhuv00 | 07/12/05

Anti-Americanism and martrydom lalogos | 07/12/05

And maybe OJ is innocent. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Oh Yeah?? WarHippy | 07/12/05

Target USA Companies? The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Nice Try. You missed Squawkbox | 07/12/05

You Better Duck Then WarHippy | 07/12/05

NWOR (nt) Squawkbox | 07/13/05

Duck! The King's Servant | 07/13/05

You left some stuff out osreinstall | 07/12/05

Well said and true (NT) Squawkbox | 07/12/05

The secret is Intel does what Bill Gates wants: DRM-chips to control ... Vily Clay | 07/12/05

Clue for ya.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

Red Letter Day tic swayback | 07/12/05

Nothing cripped about protecting YOUR data tic. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

It's not my data I'm worried about tic swayback | 07/12/05

Go read your EULA if you are running... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Ok, maybe I shot from the hip, but... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Craapy product is a great way to shorten upgrade cycle weiedm | 07/12/05

And how is this a GOOD thing? Laff | 07/12/05

Carrots versus Sticks tic swayback | 07/12/05

As both a consumer and user... It's a good thing. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

Does your whole machine have to be crippled to achieve this? tic swayback | 07/12/05

The Machine isn't crippled osreinstall | 07/12/05

It is crippled tic swayback | 07/12/05

It is not crippled. osreinstall | 07/12/05

So it is crippled tic swayback | 07/13/05

It still isn't crippled osreinstall | 07/13/05

Check your dictionary tic swayback | 07/13/05

Re: Check your dictionary Colonel_Panic | 07/13/05

I checked it, and you are wrong osreinstall | 07/13/05

Nouns versus verbs tic swayback | 07/13/05

I already did twister of descriptions osreinstall | 07/13/05

I'm the twister? Ha! It is to laugh. tic swayback | 07/13/05

Tic, the Sly One! osreinstall | 07/13/05

Sly like a rabid fox... tic swayback | 07/13/05

Pragmatism will bring you peace osreinstall | 07/13/05

Thanks for the link tic swayback | 07/13/05

On part of your post osreinstall | 07/13/05

You're letting them off easy tic swayback | 07/14/05

Not that easy osreinstall | 07/14/05

MS-Intel deal is bigger. Do you propose just to watch how they screw us? NT Vily Clay | 07/12/05

What "deal" are you talking about. AMD does the same. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

Spreading disinformation again? tic swayback | 07/12/05

I do! The King's Servant | 07/12/05

No_Ax, please clarify: are you too blind or too corrupted? (NT) Vily Clay | 07/12/05

Vily !!!!!!! Your back. I need a good chuckle. Squawkbox | 07/12/05

;-] Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Or maybe you guys just started to think? (NT) Vily Clay | 07/12/05

Nawwww we just agree for once (NT) Squawkbox | 07/13/05

Is it because not all of reality is too painful to see? (NT) Vily Clay | 07/13/05

Your kidding me! monolith | 07/12/05

Really? Where is the money from the fines? No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

I would want it! The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Your overlooking something osreinstall | 07/12/05

Then Why...... WarHippy | 07/12/05

Different Scenerio osreinstall | 07/12/05

I was wrong once...... WarHippy | 07/13/05

On Versions osreinstall | 07/13/05

Simply put, I don't believe it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

You are not required to belive me. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

I would send you the file but.... The King's Servant | 07/12/05

WinAMP piggy backed on MS's codecs osreinstall | 07/12/05

But if that is correct.... The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Gave you a couple reasons than missing osreinstall | 07/12/05

So you didn't really read my post, did you? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Did you read mine? osreinstall | 07/13/05

Let's read. The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Your Unbelievable osreinstall | 07/13/05

Why am I replying to you? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Because you want to argue instead of being honest. osreinstall | 07/13/05

Here's a Suggestion.... WarHippy | 07/12/05

Now that CNN has removed the option of using any thing but WMP... LoCal | 07/12/05

Did they remove the option of using any player... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Bwahahahahahaha :-D LoCal | 07/13/05

You called? Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/12/05

These darn EUeans, where do they find the nerve... michael_t | 07/12/05

And then there's reality ... lalogos | 07/12/05

Yeah, you did. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

But, But, But, But...... WarHippy | 07/13/05

Do you really call what you just described as reality? michael_t | 07/12/05

Time to put ALL monopolies to an END IT-sys | 07/12/05

I like Monopoly zappattazz@... | 07/12/05

Are you clueless? No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

There is nothing illegal about being a monopoly... LoCal | 07/12/05

There is when you pay... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Can't wait until Apple is onboard with Intel Boot_Agnostic | 07/12/05

Yes, Apple is the ultimate monopoly. No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/12/05

How can you be a monopoly... tic swayback | 07/12/05

* They control 100% of their market. (NT) The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Umm no, they are in two markets... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Nice try tic swayback | 07/12/05

Name one other computer... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Sorry, it holds up pretty well tic swayback | 07/13/05

What Will They Be..... WarHippy | 07/13/05

I prefer.... tic swayback | 07/13/05

When you are called 'clueless' michael_t | 07/12/05

I see Intel do this every day here sscarfo | 07/12/05

AMD - DELL mabricen | 07/12/05

Wait til this hits ZDNet tic swayback | 07/12/05

Haven't I seen this somewhere else? toomuchgreeatea@... | 07/12/05

"Nothing to see here. Move along!" zappattazz@... | 07/12/05

just reading thru...try this: brent1a | 07/12/05

PS- brent1a | 07/12/05

IE cuts off the address halfway. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Hmmm.... tic swayback | 07/12/05

and eLurker | 07/12/05

Links are valid tic swayback | 07/12/05

Or try using Fx. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

As does Safari, apparently (NT) tic swayback | 07/12/05

i am eLurker | 07/12/05

You couldn't paste the rest of the url like I did, here cry babies... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

HA! HA! HA! HA! WarHippy | 07/13/05

Can you turn off word wrap when you type URLs, please? The King's Servant | 07/12/05

How? tic swayback | 07/12/05

It is a function of the browser, not the forum. The King's Servant | 07/12/05

i see eLurker | 07/12/05

Yes, that is what I was saying but now... The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Let's try again... The King's Servant | 07/12/05

I see both of those as broken URL's tic swayback | 07/12/05

AWW! Cmon you guys..... WarHippy | 07/13/05

Sry tic, links no good mamacat | 07/12/05

Cut and paste tic swayback | 07/12/05

Actuall *LINKS* right here toadlife | 07/12/05

Yep! Yep! Yep! WarHippy | 07/13/05

We can tell who is using Konqeror... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

This is an important collection of facts but michael_t | 07/12/05

Gonna be fun tic swayback | 07/13/05

This legal battles should michael_t | 07/13/05

Rise of more EU facist! Reverend MacFellow | 07/12/05

Hey Kunte, they don't take cr@p from the likes of... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

hahaha you funny! Reverend MacFellow | 07/12/05

I'm with ya on that one boy michael_t | 07/12/05

DISTURBING INTEL NEEDS TO PRACTICE what honest business dosent dare do samm_z | 07/12/05

One more reason why we DON'T need the EU jbachandouris@... | 07/12/05

AMD gets a foothold in EU... The King's Servant | 07/12/05

Good. emcee_z | 07/12/05

By "They" I mean US officials, not EU emcee_z | 07/12/05

I am willing to bet... Rodo1 | 07/12/05

I dunno... John L. Ries | 07/12/05

Raids sound a bit extreme, but... John L. Ries | 07/12/05

Sensationalist reporting deepee912 | 07/13/05

So Intel courting Linux/Open Source was all... Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

Not at all John L. Ries | 07/13/05

All true, you caught me... Colonel_Panic | 07/13/05

But consider this... The King's Servant | 07/13/05

EU Bobby Joe Reed | 07/12/05

Re: EU Colonel_Panic | 07/12/05

I like the colonel... (No relevant text) The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Intel turned to WWII?? GenRabbit@... | 07/12/05

My parting shot Squawkbox | 07/12/05

You Don't Mean...... WarHippy | 07/13/05

CURB SERVICE!!!!!!! Squawkbox | 07/13/05

You have a very valid point because... Colonel_Panic | 07/13/05

Yeah! Let's celebrate! The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Intel Compilers - Smoking Gun & Bullets SamBirnbaum | 07/13/05

Hmmm. John Zern | 07/13/05

LOL that Intel compilers are 'smoking gun' Prognosticator | 07/13/05

Optimizing versus Breaking tic swayback | 07/13/05

INTEL Compliers and benchmarks SamBirnbaum | 07/13/05

WTHey? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

Verrrrrrrry interesting, thanks for the... Colonel_Panic | 07/13/05

Interesting about HP John Zern | 07/13/05

So you didn't read the full complaint either, eh? The King's Servant | 07/13/05

EU on the way out! An_Axe_to_Grind | 07/13/05

I love to quote Kinte! An_Axe_to_Grind | 07/13/05

AMD vs Intel Howie8 | 07/13/05

They do. emcee_z | 07/13/05

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