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There were plenty of personal computer vendors before the IBM-PC was introduced. Had IBM stayed out (which would have been a severe mistake) others would have filled the vacuum and the personal computer revolution (already in full swing in 1983) would have happened anyway.

MS and Intel both rode to fame and fortune on IBM's coattails.
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I personally hope AMD wins this suit and that is all I have.  jmills@... | 06/29/05
AMD HaHaHa  Sparky_z | 06/30/05
Done any research  dtjkgreen | 06/30/05
Capitalism, I Love it!  johncalvinhall | 06/30/05
Intel is Inferior  McVeigh | 06/30/05
The data is Flawed  Aguy_z | 06/30/05
Correct on the surface  bobbblll | 06/30/05
Intel v AMD  leelitch | 06/30/05
re: Intel vs. AMD  Wolfie2K3 | 06/30/05
RE: "AMD HaHaHa"  ajapierce | 06/30/05
Huh??????  Wolfie2K3 | 06/30/05
AMD vs Intel  aljel_z | 06/30/05
you need to get the pdf from Intel to understand  chulangj | 07/01/05
you need to get the pdf from IAMD to understand  chulangj | 07/01/05
20 million dead AMD vs. 50 INTEL Chip  dotcom_z | 06/30/05
You lost me.  SysAn63 | 06/30/05
I also have AMD at home  mactolinux | 06/30/05
FUD  shadowjk | 06/30/05
re: FUD  Wolfie2K3 | 06/30/05
Wow! This is kinda big!  rick752 | 06/29/05
Intel Taking over????  debnfem@... | 06/30/05
Netscape never used illegal tactics ...  rick752 | 07/01/05
What are Intel criminals gonna do - admit GUILT ???  realitycheck101 | 06/29/05
What are Intel criminals gonna do - admit GUILT ???  wwiley@... | 06/30/05
What are Intel criminals gonna do - admit GUILT ???  McVeigh | 06/30/05
You have got something wrong here.....  akaralia | 06/30/05
An interesting addition...  akaralia | 06/30/05
Not being pesimistics BUT...  Humph | 06/30/05
Marketing,marketing...  akaralia | 06/30/05
They're not criminals  cicuta | 06/30/05
AMD is already better than Intel  Pyrotech_z | 06/30/05
NO  gary.douglas@... | 06/30/05
Why do all of your friends fry chips????  just a guy | 07/08/05
Agreed - nice prose  Aguy_z | 06/30/05
Not the issue  mds_z | 06/30/05
Another way to look at it  SysAn63 | 06/30/05
Look at it again  cicuta | 06/30/05
The fact is...  SysAn63 | 07/01/05
Gee, innocent people say the same thing...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Without Intel + Microsoft you would still be playing pacman  dotcom_z | 06/30/05
Don;t know about that  John L. Ries | 06/30/05
dotcom absolutely correct.  John Zern | 06/30/05
And Without Coke You Would Pay Twice For Soda  Santelli | 06/30/05
Not so sure about that  jmchugh@... | 07/02/05
wait a minute....  JoeMama_z | 06/30/05
AMD All the way  webmaster@... | 06/29/05
Nice "legal" opinon there, uh huh...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Nice cheap shot there, uh huh...  mds_z | 06/30/05
Not much to do all day, Ax, uh huh  jkozura_z | 06/30/05
Probably down to advertising???  Humph | 06/30/05
Hope Intel counter sues , cleans AMD's clock  Prognosticator | 06/30/05
On the other hand...  Physco Dude | 06/30/05
Short term investors???  frabjous | 06/30/05
Hmmm so Intel doesn't have the right to decide who they do business with?  maldain | 06/30/05
re your Japan reference  Prognosticator | 06/30/05
good point  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
So you're using "Plausible Deniability"  Tucson Bill | 07/01/05
Stock  dtjkgreen | 06/30/05
For what?  John L. Ries | 06/30/05
Not so fast...  Prognosticator | 06/30/05
Hope Intel counter sues , cleans AMD's clock  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
LOL  Prognosticator | 07/01/05
Intel makes cra4p  b8zs4@... | 07/06/05
A second lawsuit was filed in Japan this morning  djmiller@... | 06/30/05
Hmmm, Japan Takes on Intel but not M$??? (nt)  tbbrickster_z | 06/30/05
Hmmm, Japan Takes on Intel but not M$??? (nt)  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
Remember Microsoft?  burke@... | 06/30/05
Are you really confused or just without a clue?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Wintel  voska | 06/30/05
Well yeah, your right. Has nothing to do with AMD.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Remember Microsoft?  burke@... | 06/30/05
A heap of nonsense  ashraaq_wahab6789 | 06/30/05
AMD all the way  brotherjim01@... | 06/30/05
I'm sorry what Intel Problems have you had?  Aguy_z | 06/30/05
true cpu's  etheran | 06/30/05
I think that gag order is going to come quickly  John L. Ries | 06/30/05
Or, one side is going to anger the judge...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Definitions help understanding  JackPastor | 06/30/05
Can you help with this too?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Intel CEO fires back at AMD suit  Pyrotech_z | 06/30/05
But, do the alegations have any legal standing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Yes, They Do Have Legal Standing  itanalyst | 06/30/05
interesting logic!  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
I have heard Intel chips are more durable  etheran | 06/30/05
That *USED* to be true  Sir_Chancealot | 07/01/05
change "intel chips" to "amd chips" above  Sir_Chancealot | 07/01/05
Legal standing?  imbjb007@... | 07/01/05
This law suit will probably.....  JoeMama_z | 06/30/05
You bring up a good point  John L. Ries | 06/30/05
INTEL Should Buy AMD  dotcom_z | 06/30/05
Why should they waste the money?  mustangj36@... | 06/30/05
David vs Goliath  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
DOJ wouldn't allow it.  John Zern | 06/30/05
RE: INTEL Should Buy AMD  tleonardi@... | 06/30/05
History (if I am correct)  hawkeyeaz1 | 06/30/05
Superior functionallity ????????  sbodymender@... | 07/01/05
hmm..  GenRabbit@... | 06/30/05
Sue, it's the new American way  cap1081 | 06/30/05
KiCK A.S.S. AMD  samm_z | 06/30/05
If you can't compete might as well sue!  ab@... | 06/30/05
AMD can't compete???  Predator_z | 06/30/05
You and your father  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
Ummm OOPS!  SysAn63 | 07/01/05
AMD Must Win this Case  databasearchitect | 06/30/05
AMD has a superior product and intel is scared  BuckRogers_z | 06/30/05
Actually, looks to be AMD is scared...  John Zern | 06/30/05
Parents  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
correction....  JoeMama_z | 06/30/05
Seems AMD is the one crying, not Intel...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Hope they win  Idahomonte | 06/30/05
For this, AMD finally spends money  mustangj36@... | 06/30/05
AMD finally spends money  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
Word of mouth ,in this case, apparently didn't reach beyond the tech  mustangj36@... | 07/01/05
One more thing...  mustangj36@... | 07/01/05
Public Outcry?  preacherx | 06/30/05
You mean take responsibility for your own actions???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Public Outcry?  stephen0838_z | 06/30/05
"We" don't have much choice  Idahomonte | 06/30/05
Bzzzzzt wrong!!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
uh...  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
Choices  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
I want to buy an MPC computer...  vferrara | 06/30/05
Public Outcry? ??  Not*A*Clue | 06/30/05
AMD has far superior gaming chips, dually's  bweir13 | 07/01/05
good econ  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
Amazing  emcee_z | 06/30/05
Choises ARE available  imbjb007@... | 07/01/05
Think about it indeed  diatonic | 07/01/05
Not about "US"  emcee_z | 07/03/05
AMD? AMDone!  cmaitlan | 06/30/05
Or as they say in Texas, AMDead !  Prognosticator | 06/30/05
Yer funny.  Sabz5150 | 06/30/05
Sure...  etheran | 06/30/05
Counterpoint  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
Oh, so in Texass...  tudormon | 07/01/05
Where do you get your info?  diatonic | 07/01/05
If AMD doesn't win this case, they are done.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Suit Won't Fail  itanalyst | 06/30/05
Another win for Intel.  John Zern | 06/30/05
John, your wasting your time talking facts with him.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Hmm..Let Me Lay A Little Knowledge On You  itanalyst | 06/30/05
so.....  JoeMama_z | 06/30/05
Payoff  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
so who is the law breaker....  JoeMama_z | 07/01/05
Where is your logic?  Crestview | 06/30/05
Logic  big-skip@... | 07/01/05
Hmm..Let Me Lay A Little Knowledge On You  E.M. | 07/01/05
you rock, John  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
I have one word for you - GUACAMOLE!  jkozura_z | 06/30/05
Government monopoly  vferrara | 06/30/05
Missing the point  Robert Crocker | 06/30/05
Robert Monopoly vs Non-Monopoly  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Monopoly vs Non-Monopoly? That isn't what this is about....  YLearn | 06/30/05
Sorry but no  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Sorry, but yes.  YLearn | 06/30/05
Correct  Dave F_z | 06/30/05
Proof? Cite? Show me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
The proof is in the pudding  Dave F_z | 06/30/05
Not Intel, the law  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Ah I see  Dave F_z | 06/30/05
Ironically  Robert Crocker | 07/01/05
You refuse to listen/read  Robert Crocker | 07/01/05
About Time!!!  bka1959 | 06/30/05
lol  R3b0rN | 06/30/05
They should go down swinging  a155mm | 06/30/05
It's about time !!!  warnerpeter@... | 06/30/05
AMD's legal standing is sound....  YLearn | 06/30/05
Is that your "legal" opinion?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Try this then  Robert Crocker | 06/30/05
Sorry but you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Monopoly  bka1959 | 06/30/05
Did the courts say O.J. was a free man?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Apples and oranges dude  bka1959 | 06/30/05
Hmmm, if Intel ends up with  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
Get off the not a monopoly bandwagon...  YLearn | 06/30/05
You need more details then...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
I have my details...  YLearn | 06/30/05
Oh, let's explain  tudormon | 07/01/05
hrmmm...  kreeture | 06/30/05
AMD is S.H.I.T!!! Counter Sue the **** out of them!!!  Steve1591 | 06/30/05
your statement proves you have little real knowledge  zeusfuse | 06/30/05
facts are facts, intel garbage  nirvana4all@... | 07/01/05
Dear friend  tudormon | 07/01/05
Amd all the way  gourddancer1@... | 07/01/05
What if other companies did the same thing?  kreeture | 06/30/05
If AMD wasn't nipping at INcahootsTEL's heels  Santelli | 06/30/05
intel already lost in japan  mo2dr | 06/30/05
Um, You might want to look at CNBC  jamjabla | 07/01/05
Why use lies and settlements to hide facts.  fishingpaul | 06/30/05
AMD chips fry Easily?  kreeture | 06/30/05
I hope AMD stops making processors  latinohartford | 06/30/05
um, what?  ctm66446 | 06/30/05
I still dont understand that message  kreeture | 06/30/05
Hmm.... I wish they quit this crap  Krazyken39 | 06/30/05
the AMD chipsets are better than Intel's now - didn't you know?  zeusfuse | 06/30/05
I hate it when companies whine to courts...  NonZealot | 06/30/05
what monopoly?  morpheus0061 | 06/30/05
"WHAT MONOPOLY?" YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING  c2tsales@... | 06/30/05
"What monopoly?"  goldboy | 06/30/05
read your laws  nirvana4all@... | 07/01/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05
10 years ago we hardly mounted AMD - now it is a MUST  kcc@... | 06/30/05
Umm...  A_Pickle | 07/12/05
time honored american business tradition  iswcky | 06/30/05
....no.  A_Pickle | 07/12/05
You people supporting Intel and "Free Markets" are grossly uninformed.  dms350 | 06/30/05
Well that is YOUR opinion...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/30/05
like what?  nirvana4all@... | 07/01/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05
You, supporting AMD and "Control Markets," are an idiot.  A_Pickle | 07/12/05
AMD verses Intel  getyson@... | 06/30/05
LET'S GIVE THE FREE MARKET A CHANCE!  kcc@... | 06/30/05
Greenscreens are very widely used.  A_Pickle | 07/13/05
AMD vs Intel  gfoley | 06/30/05
It will fade away  Crestview | 06/30/05
Everybody's a psychic  emcee_z | 06/30/05
INTEL  RANDY65 | 06/30/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05
Intel and AMD  R3b0rN | 06/30/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05
AMD Rocks  daman973 | 06/30/05
AMD is not done if they lose  TRJ021782 | 06/30/05
AMD vs. intel  1pie1 | 06/30/05
AMD will Win  support@... | 06/30/05
AMD does win either way  SWORC | 06/30/05
You got just Intel, you pay high prices  sdebo@... | 06/30/05
It's Microsoft. I know it.  netnerdo@... | 07/01/05
Intel should buy up AMD  big_romantic_ca@... | 07/01/05
It would never happen...  YLearn | 07/01/05
Intel Fanboys Take Note  bweir13 | 07/01/05
Dell doesn't want to deal with AMD  jamjabla | 07/01/05
Are these rebates in lieu of dumping Intel chips?  rick752 | 07/01/05
No  jamjabla | 07/01/05
Play the same game  wwiley@... | 07/01/05
Duh! how more illegal can intel get  nirvana4all@... | 07/01/05
intel~amd Lawsuit  KenMcrumJr | 07/01/05
Why? Read the brief...  YLearn | 07/01/05
If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em  bammike | 07/01/05
Tired of hearing this line of "reasoning"  YLearn | 07/01/05
AMD is still the best!  cwhite23 | 07/01/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05
Actually, this whole thing is very sad  rick752 | 07/01/05
AMD is being bad  jamjabla | 07/01/05
Bull....  rick752 | 07/01/05
Why don't you read these messages  jamjabla | 07/01/05
It amazing ...  rick752 | 07/01/05
What  jamjabla | 07/01/05
BTW - What brand MB are you using?  jamjabla | 07/01/05
Boards  rick752 | 07/01/05
AMD vs. Intel  james4shari | 07/04/05
AMD is retarded.  A_Pickle | 07/12/05
I think that you meant to say that you are retarded  slack.kid | 07/12/05
No, I'm quite certain I meant AMD is retarded.  A_Pickle | 07/12/05
HAHAHA  racer_x_z | 07/12/05

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