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I have to disagree
---So how is it that the XBOX, PS3 and Nintendo consoles are so
relatively small?---

Easy. They don't have to contain all of the components that a
laptop needs to contain. They have external power supplies.
http://www.macintouch.com/macintel04.html#jun10
As for the Cell Processor ... it's a high power part (similar to the
P4 at around 120W). It's optimized for compute-intensive tasks
with software optimized for the 3 processors (like games or
perhaps a compute-server). It's not a general purpose chip -- it
requires more optimization than switching to Intel x86. It won't
work in a laptop (1/2 hour battery life?). It won't work in a silent
desktop like the Mac mini. The latter two are the growth
markets.

---My point being, they won't get any special treatment from
Intel, far different than IBM specifically making a chip for
them.---

My point being, they weren't getting any special treatment from
IBM. IBM has publicly stated that Apple was around 2% of their
business, and was a break-even prospect at best. IBM promised
them a 3Ghz chip within a matter of months, and it still hasn't
materialized a year and a half later. Sorry, but being ignored by
Intel can't be any worse. At least Intel will continue to improve
their chips for their other customers and Apple can use these
same chips.

---Apple just wasn't willing to do the same, their loss, and their
customers loss too---

No, Apple was unable to do the same. There's a difference.
Apple does not have the clout, the marketshare, to be able to
afford to do the same things as MS. More Xbox consoles are
expected to be sold by Christmas this year than the total
number of all Apple computers sold for the entire year (and the
Xbox won't be out for several months). It's a numbers game. To
get someone to put in the time, effort and cost to specialize
your chips for you, you have to be able to make it profitable for
them. Apple wasn't able to do this. So they've gone with the
best option open to them.
Posted by: tic swayback   Posted on: 06/10/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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IBM like MOTO  sp29 | 06/09/05
Pure, unadulterated spin  John L. Ries | 06/09/05
IBM  GoPower | 06/09/05
I second that!  polax@... | 06/09/05
IBM is really a foundary, not what Apple needs (or wants)  Prognosticator | 06/10/05
Volume  GoPower | 06/10/05
Makes sense for both sides  tic swayback | 06/09/05
Intel  GoPower | 06/09/05
Big difference  tic swayback | 06/09/05
Also there is AMD...does anyone think that OSX for  Laff | 06/10/05
Really  GoPower | 06/10/05
I have to disagree  tic swayback | 06/10/05
Apple and IBM were partners  GoPower | 06/10/05
Not much of a partnership  tic swayback | 06/11/05
Have to disagree on one point.  ShadeTree | 06/13/05
The idea has lots of appeal  tic swayback | 06/13/05
Whooha In Your Face  Squawkbox | 06/09/05
Yeap  GoPower | 06/09/05
Oh I know  Squawkbox | 06/09/05
Why not  mabricen | 06/09/05
Hmmmm I did not know that  Squawkbox | 06/09/05
Yes..  Patrick Jones | 06/09/05
I wonder then  Squawkbox | 06/09/05
Got it right  mabricen | 06/10/05
MS Trojan Horse  MacCanuck | 06/09/05
Bad Marriage to begin with...  nucrash | 06/09/05
4 million CPU a year.  mabricen | 06/09/05
Slight correction  tic swayback | 06/09/05
I know  mabricen | 06/10/05
But not in the next two years  GoPower | 06/10/05
Not a fan of the way Steve Jobs is handling this  Richard Flude | 06/09/05
I think problems ahead for Apple  hipparchus2000 | 06/10/05
Does that not assume that thngs are going to stay  Laff | 06/10/05
Apple's not in trouble in your scenario  tic swayback | 06/10/05
True  GoPower | 06/10/05
very true, gateway, dell etc have their work cut out for them  hipparchus2000 | 06/10/05
Jobs can be a bitter man  tic swayback | 06/10/05
AIM  Jkirk3279 | 06/14/05
PPC NEVER hung on the desktop  zeusfuse | 06/20/05
Who but a Troll could possibly believe this?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/09/05
That's what I wanted to know  John L. Ries | 06/10/05

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