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When must-have programs become Trojans
"Nothing other than just more endless anti-MS crying. but Give me a break..."

Did Microsoft buy Adobe when I wasn't looking? This isn't anti-MS, it is anti-proprietary.

Personally, I hate Adobe Flash. I do not like webpages that can decide to download and play annoying or distracting video on my browser without my express permission. If you disable Flash in IE, it complains incessantly and keeps trying to re-download and enable it. This was one of the main reasons I switched to Firefox and NoScript.

There are whole sites that depend on Flash to deliver their content. Needless to say, I AVOID these sites. They don't have anything of value that I want.

The real key here is that Flash and Silverlight both require proprietary executables to be downloaded to your computer. Both of these "phone home" to their respective corporate sites, and you have little or no control about how they do it, how often, or what information they send. You also have no control over any security holes they may open in your computer or your network. That is just unacceptable to me. I may have to put up with it just to use the dominant desktop software (WindowsXP), but I'm not willing to compromise just to get an ancillary capability that is used to annoy me more often than it is used to assist me ...
Posted by: terry flores   Posted on: 04/30/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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The "may"...?  Qbt | 04/30/08
When must-have programs become Trojans  terry flores | 04/30/08
Try Flash and Pics Control for IE.  Anton Philidor | 04/30/08
RE: Try Flash and Pics Control for IE  bfilipiak@... | 04/30/08
Hey Anton  theo_durcan | 05/01/08
Once again the myth of going to Firefox  tonymcs@... | 05/05/08
Monopoly is against the law, and is despised  humans-enabled.com | 05/11/08
My, you are bitter and twisted!  GOTBO | 05/01/08
Pardon me...  Four-Eyes | 05/05/08
Me too - sort of  Sagax- | 05/04/08
Proof exists  Update victim | 05/01/08
motivation  coffeeshark | 04/30/08
According to Mr. Nitot, the motivation should be...  Guy Smiley | 04/30/08
Destroy prorietary software  elderlybloke | 05/01/08
Hardware costs are different to software  quantumstate | 04/30/08
software costs a lot, though  coffeeshark | 04/30/08
Well, You're correct about no guarantee on  Update victim | 05/01/08
Not quite right  Dr. John | 04/30/08
Just like an open source guy  mydasx | 05/05/08
"It's their software to do with as they please"  RightPaddock | 05/01/08
FUD  shawn_dude | 05/01/08
I use flash player in Linux np  starcannon99022@... | 05/01/08
flash player in Linux  LinuxEnduser | 05/02/08
The market will work - let it!  Carrion | 04/30/08
I agree with you, to the extent that the market is "open"  terry flores | 04/30/08
Open Source Flash  pj_mouse | 05/01/08
This line of logic supposes...  starcannon99022@... | 05/01/08
The market will work - let it!  vilppuu@... | 05/08/08
The internet has never been "Open" in nature. QUIT trying to paint.....  xuniL_z | 04/30/08
Open source is not government controlled  quantumstate | 04/30/08
you are right  xuniL_z | 04/30/08
The Internet IS BY AND LARGE OPEN  chaz15 | 04/30/08
Oh Gosh  TtfnJohn | 04/30/08
Well said  balaknair | 04/30/08
Pappy of the internet  candusound@... | 05/01/08
Al Gore  bahera | 05/02/08
Your wrong  starcannon99022@... | 05/01/08
Proprietary software is patriotic  elderlybloke | 05/01/08
Striking a balance  Spats30 | 04/30/08
Oh God ! here we go again --- quick call the EU...  socialism=nowhere | 04/30/08
MS and Google called the EUq  bahera | 05/02/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  johnpills | 04/30/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  spinin | 04/30/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  fewiii | 04/30/08
Great retort  bahera | 05/02/08
XUL  zd@... | 04/30/08
RE: No Flash Needed  Mr_Wizard | 04/30/08
Gee arent you special  jimk_z | 05/27/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  ibtechnologies@... | 04/30/08
Flash and Silverlight ..Apples and Oranges  ibtechnologies@... | 04/30/08
No, Flex is a counter to WPF/.NET  PB_z | 05/01/08
Wrong  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
Adobe AIR + Flex is counter to WPF  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
Can you say "AIR"  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
????  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
Gotta love it...  jackbond | 05/01/08
WRONG  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
OOPS Sorry posted to wrong reply  ibtechnologies@... | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  webm0nster | 04/30/08
Gratitude? Nice logic.  bahera | 05/02/08
RE: "Adobe's long-standing refusal to...  Louis.Ross@... | 04/30/08
Works like an alpha...  Necrolin | 05/01/08
Beta beta beta  bahera | 05/02/08
I must have lucked out.  Louis.Ross@... | 05/02/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  walkerjian@... | 04/30/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  iHateMorons | 05/01/08
HTML/CSS = unexciting?  bahera | 05/02/08
This guy is an IDIOT  iHateMorons | 05/01/08
HTML 5 is a total joke  jackbond | 05/01/08
You must be talking about a different HTML5...  shoktai@... | 05/01/08
No, not a mistake, HTML 5 is a fuken joke  jackbond | 05/01/08
They're taking a bad approach with HTML5  PB_z | 05/01/08
Small competitors?  bahera | 05/02/08
Over the top.  tonytopper | 05/01/08
AMEN!...  socialism=nowhere | 05/01/08
EU boo-hoos?  bahera | 05/02/08
Idiots and agendas?  bahera | 05/02/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  JasterMereel | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  RightPaddock | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  RightPaddock | 05/01/08
Mozilla sucks!  qmlscycrajg | 05/01/08
The consistently high intellectual level  mhenriday | 05/01/08
Trust consumers and let the Free Market decide  ElgatoNL | 05/01/08
Everybody's an Idiot  aureolin@... | 05/01/08
Competition is building something better  THEE WOLF | 05/01/08
This guy is annoying...  tucker@... | 05/01/08
Flash = not out there  bahera | 05/02/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  abarten | 05/01/08
squack about flash and silverlight, but don't provide a solution...thanks!  quarky42 | 05/01/08
Adobe and MS  theo_durcan | 05/01/08
Mozilla = MS?  bahera | 05/02/08
Adobe has open-sourced Flash  Paul C. | 05/01/08
Flash is NOT open-sourced  bahera | 05/02/08
An overview...  Mitch 74 | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  tem@... | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  admin@... | 05/01/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  bahera | 05/02/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  mattjpoole@... | 05/02/08
Translation...  Spiritusindomit@... | 05/02/08
Flash is useful in some cases...  Four-Eyes | 05/05/08
Flash is net Blight  proton_z | 05/06/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  Ceridan | 05/06/08
This story is so damn right.  magallanes | 05/06/08
Heck  Boot_Agnostic | 05/07/08
Name a website that requires Safari?  sw0rdfish | 05/07/08
Flash and Silverlight are more than just Video  royalstream | 05/07/08
Don't whine, please...  srkinyon | 05/07/08
RE: Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  fsadfas | 05/09/08
Mozilla warns of Flash and Silverlight 'agenda'  fsadfas | 05/09/08
What if flash suddenly wasn't free anymore?  skate323k137 | 05/10/08
I guess Google supports proprietary software  jimk_z | 05/27/08

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