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One would hope this were true
but things like the DCMA, the "Micky Mouse" copyright
extension law that Disney et al, bought, and the loss of
freedom of speech that came bundled with the new
campaign reform laws makes me believe that we are still
heading in the wrong direction.
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finaly some sanity  NemesisNL | 12/19/03
One would hope this were true  Franklin_z | 12/19/03
It's nice to see...  plungermonkey@... | 12/19/03
Didn't RIAA invoke 9/11 issues?  moiety | 12/19/03
The Consitution a pointy-headed contrivancy?  ltw1958 | 12/22/03
there is a solution - DRM  dg mh | 12/19/03
What about giving the consumer what he/she wants...  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/19/03
what he/she wants?  dg mh | 12/19/03
So very true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
I disagree......  jvahabzadeh | 12/19/03
I bought 10 CDs over Napsters Time  voska | 12/19/03
Wish the RIAA was there ?  Vily Clay | 12/19/03
Not True  voska | 12/19/03
RIAA irrevelent?  Suicida| | 12/21/03
Wrong  fr33dom101 | 12/19/03
not quite!  dg mh | 12/19/03
missing something  tic swayback | 12/19/03
4th year of boycotting them, mostly  Suicida| | 12/21/03
Cheap and Free  voska | 12/19/03
CDs cost so little to manufacture and stamp  Taz_z | 12/19/03
Not Hardly  Alias KEP | 12/19/03
DRM  Martin Marvinski | 12/19/03
OK, Who had to bring DRM into something like this????  TrackStar1682 | 12/22/03
DRM all of this??  zip_z | 12/22/03
The RIAA brought this on themselves  Squawkbox | 12/19/03
They say the same of rape victims too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Oh, dear God in Heaven!  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
do rape victims also  ryusen | 12/19/03
illegally gouge?  Squawkbox | 12/19/03
ask the FTC  ryusen | 12/19/03
But the RIAA actually did  voska | 12/19/03
Ummm Ax that one did not make sense  Squawkbox | 12/19/03
RE: guilty before P2P  Rabid Conservative | 01/05/04
A serious question...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
If I understand it correctly, no.  jvahabzadeh | 12/19/03
I'm sure not the whole enchilada...  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/19/03
We Agree!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Stealing is not piracy  msodbcerror | 12/19/03
So, you won't mind...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Sophomoric nonsense  Robert Crocker | 12/19/03
Did I...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
re: did i giv eyou permission...  ryusen | 12/19/03
Permission not necessary  Robert Crocker | 12/19/03
gah.. when are you going to stop playing stupid?  ryusen | 12/19/03
Let me repeat this for you AGAIN  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
You can borrow as many copies of my car as you like  voska | 12/19/03
I'm sure anyone would mind you stealing their car.  Rick_K | 12/19/03
"Borrowing"  chryosis | 12/20/03
Hey...  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/19/03
What is wrong with you  NemesisNL | 12/19/03
Explain your right to another's property.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
it isn't illegal  Rational32 | 12/19/03
the technicality of it all  ryusen | 12/19/03
Don't forget  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Uploading  voska | 12/19/03
re: uploading  ryusen | 12/19/03
missing the point  tic swayback | 12/19/03
we share songs everyday..  cybershoplifter | 12/19/03
Here we go again  NemesisNL | 12/19/03
Acts of Congress? Funny you should mention that...  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Explain how it's theft?  Rick_K | 12/19/03
Re: Explain your right to another's property.  none none | 12/19/03
re : Explain your right to another's property.  JWatson77 | 12/20/03
LOL ..They're NOT fighting for freedom.  dopeshow | 12/20/03
Here we go again! Let me say this one more time:  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
stealing  tic swayback | 12/19/03
When REAL PIRATES are making money off the item  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Still just copyright violation  tic swayback | 12/19/03
New name, same old tricks  tic swayback | 12/19/03
we are the record boys unwanted partner  cybershoplifter | 12/19/03
technically no  ryusen | 12/19/03
I'd say no  voska | 12/19/03
Those who settled  rjcomp | 12/19/03
maybe...  ryusen | 12/19/03
This does not mean...  Codiak | 12/19/03
true, sort of  tic swayback | 12/19/03
The Courts  Codiak | 12/19/03
We'll see, or rather, we won't  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Statutory damages for statute violations  StorageGuru | 12/19/03
Relativity and willful nature of the act  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
I don't think that'll work either  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Back in the day....  MarcB_z | 12/19/03
You mean when...  Codiak | 12/19/03
either way  ryusen | 12/19/03
Reality check...  Codiak | 12/19/03
when did i say i violeted the copyrights?  ryusen | 12/19/03
that's a fact  JWatson77 | 12/21/03
mixed feelings  ryusen | 12/19/03
The true cost of a CD  k4_pacific | 12/19/03
Um,, where do you account for  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
if you look at articles  ryusen | 12/19/03
music will cost 10-25 cents a song  cybershoplifter | 12/19/03
I think you're right about that  jfrankcarr | 12/19/03
Ok...  bhanes@... | 12/19/03
The artist pays for most of these  tic swayback | 12/19/03
You must have missed that lawsuit  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
The real true cost  voska | 12/19/03
Re: The true cost of a CD  Stonthcrow | 12/22/03
true costs  Stonthcrow | 12/22/03
copying not necessarily illegal  Rational32 | 12/19/03
any art museum will let you make a copy  cybershoplifter | 12/19/03
ideas can be patented though  voska | 12/19/03
Until  ParadigmOdyssey | 12/19/03
thanks Verizon  cybershoplifter | 12/19/03
And hot off the presses!  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Less than $0.88  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Call home?  Bill4 | 12/19/03
DRM phone home  tic swayback | 12/19/03
This isn't a service I'd want  Bill4 | 12/19/03
Losing Money  MarcB_z | 12/19/03
All the posts have one thing in common.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
All your posts have something common  rhavyn | 12/19/03
Nice 'excuse', got any more?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Where's the excuse?  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Not to worry, honest people understood it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
But people who speak English missed it  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Uh huh, tell you what.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
More religious bigotry  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Had to address the "10 Commandments" thing farther down  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
Religious Bigotry?  Spoon Jabber | 12/20/03
Religious Bigotry indeed  tic swayback | 12/21/03
Not always a crime  Bill Weisgerber | 12/19/03
Yeppers!  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
All of your posts show common ignorance  tic swayback | 12/19/03
If only you..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Should children run our court system?  tic swayback | 12/19/03
You bet!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Hmm, you have to teach your children?  tic swayback | 12/19/03
just to make fun  JWatson77 | 12/21/03
RIAA may get sued now!  Robert Rice | 12/19/03
Oh now there is a good excuse...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
But wait..  #team-fo-Chivalrous | 12/21/03
All YOUR posts have one thing in common.  Robert Crocker | 12/19/03
Another good excuse.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
No excuse give for copyright infringement  voska | 12/19/03
You missed the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Talk about missing the point...  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Bitty's excuses are for lying to win an argument?  are-you-thinking | 12/19/03
My Excuse  Nullifidian | 12/19/03
Nice try, silly but still nice.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Where are the thieves?  tic swayback | 12/19/03
I picked a tic off my a$$ once  Spoon Jabber | 12/20/03
Sounds like poor personal hygine to me.  are-you-thinking | 12/21/03
Right, like there are alot of adult conversations here  Spoon Jabber | 12/21/03
Best to keep your pants on when out in the woods  tic swayback | 12/21/03
Devils advocate here  voska | 12/19/03
Not even close...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
But where is the theft?  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/19/03
UnAmerican bigoted tripe  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Actually,,,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Really?  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Tic, follow any rules you like.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
I follow my own rules  tic swayback | 12/19/03
OR  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
I met gypsie once  voska | 12/20/03
10 Commandments are biblical  voska | 12/19/03
Who is the true prostitute, Bitty?  are-you-thinking | 12/21/03
Think about this.....  saldor@... | 12/19/03
Another excuse...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Check out Apple's Online Music store  fac | 01/05/04
Come on people, don't you any better excuses?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
lol  saldor@... | 12/19/03
Pedestal?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Pedestals versus Pulpits  tic swayback | 12/19/03
I declared nothing, you must be confused.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
Ahem, let me quote for you  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Speaking of dishonesty...  tic swayback | 12/19/03
Here is my "excuse" Bitty  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/19/03
You have to be Blind not see this  voska | 12/19/03
and if he has  JWatson77 | 12/21/03
Sort of like your reasons are used  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
makes us even doesn't it?  ryusen | 12/19/03
Ecuse number three. Its the other guys fault.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
what does my pointing your your hypocracy  ryusen | 12/19/03
Don - what excuse are you going to use?  bgoss@... | 12/19/03
Hey Bitty Boy  F_U | 12/22/03
A very interesting post.  Laff | 12/19/03
No argument ther Rev.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/19/03
YOU MISSED THE POINT-AGAIN!!!!  AbsolutelyNot | 12/19/03
A very interesting post.....  Laff | 12/19/03
Why dont you include MS in that Ax  nite_w0lf | 12/19/03
Yet when....  Rick_K | 12/19/03
Your right  XerOne | 12/20/03
RE: All the posts have one thing in common.  kitkimes41@... | 12/22/03
buying cd's  seademyer | 12/19/03
What a load!!!...  BitTwiddler | 12/19/03
that and  JWatson77 | 12/20/03
For you, Bit. MOOOOO-AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-Haaaaa...  Jack-Booted EULA | 12/19/03
(NT) No preview button; sometimes my last name is and non-breaking space:o)  Jack-Booted EULA | 12/19/03
Also...  F_U | 12/22/03
actually...  ryusen | 12/22/03
Making a living with music  xcali | 12/19/03
Entertainment software here  voska | 12/20/03
according to some numbers i read  ryusen | 12/22/03
Life in the recording biz  mpol1@... | 01/05/04
Another take  mpol1@... | 01/05/04
why do you ask?  paulgeaf | 12/22/03
they only  JWatson77 | 12/20/03
Civil liberties trump property rights  George Mitchell | 12/20/03
Spoon Jabber = Very Poor Reasoning  are-you-thinking | 12/20/03
I stand behind my definition  Spoon Jabber | 12/21/03
The Supreme Court disagrees with you  tic swayback | 12/22/03
OK, thanks for the info  Spoon Jabber | 12/22/03
RIAA, illegal, what's new?  FilledOut | 12/21/03
More lies and deceit from RIAA  terry flores | 12/21/03
I Wonder  F_U | 12/22/03
Is there an Echo in here?...  BitTwiddler | 12/22/03
Need to Examine Focus  rmurchison@... | 12/22/03
Don..I mean Bit...I mean NO_AX  F_U | 12/23/03
its a revolution  middleground | 12/27/03
.mp3's are not a copy of the "real" product  ctrent@... | 01/05/04
mp3's are not a copy of the "real" product  AS GOD IS MY WITNESS | 01/05/04

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