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Everybody is watching this process, and it is becomming an emabarassment
for MS. And what do you expect for them to do with a story about the current state of Longhorn and Microsofts potential problems???? They are trying to put all of the pieces to the puzzle together with limited information. They have to talk about all of the little (sometimes old) slivers of information we have about Longhorn. They did a very good job of giving as clear a picture as possible and identifying areas where Microsoft may have problems.
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There have been no public beta's or evals...  BitTwiddler | 03/30/05
No public beta? What about XP?  alterego_z | 03/30/05
Then if that is the case  Linux User 147560 | 03/30/05
Can you really trust what Microsoft says?  mhuddy | 03/31/05
RE: Can you really trust what Microsoft says?  Linux User 147560 | 04/01/05
Get your pre-betas here  MongoMe | 04/01/05
Oh boy, is this going to be a delicious SLUGFEST!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Sheesh, where do you live?  Real World | 03/30/05
Staten Island, New York  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Glens Falls, NY myself......:)  Laff | 03/30/05
Hey neighbor!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
A little to the left!  Laff | 03/30/05
Small world  Real World | 03/30/05
Who drinks water in Glens Falls? heh heh heh  Laff | 03/30/05
I'm a former Albany, NY resident  Loverock Davidson | 03/30/05
Don't laugh too hard.  dgurney | 03/30/05
NTFS Blows  RannXerox | 03/31/05
Question  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
I know  Jeff Spicoli | 03/31/05
I'm curious about this too  toadlife | 03/31/05
RE: Staten Island, New York  richdave | 04/01/05
Since you haven't seen it...  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Don't need to..ZDNet has been keeping me updated aplenty!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Would that be the same ZDNET...  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Yup  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Those past few articles have NOT been all that negative.  Laff | 03/30/05
And a piano might drop from the sky too!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Consider the source.  dgurney | 03/30/05
ho ho ho  Monkeypox | 03/31/05
Grow up  pukka10 | 03/30/05
How about you ...  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Already did that years ago  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
???  jmills@... | 03/30/05
Everybody is watching this process, and it is becomming an emabarassment  DonnieBoy | 03/30/05
WinFS was the only interesting bit...  jorwell | 03/30/05
WinFS will debut along with Cairo  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Jeff, as a charter member of the ...  Judas I. | 03/30/05
Left from center  RannXerox | 03/31/05
losing it  Jeff Spicoli | 03/31/05
longhorn  quac | 03/31/05
What?  Bob/Paul | 04/01/05
Upgraded to OSX 3 years ago  ITGuy04 | 03/30/05
yawn  Joe Blow_z | 03/30/05
LOL (NT)  James T. Kirk | 03/30/05
Upgraded a few months ago  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
I upgraded to Linux three years ago. But I love Mac users too.  DonnieBoy | 03/30/05
Serious card issue  Bill4 | 03/30/05
You just install the Classic thing in OSX (it's part of OSX)  hipparchus2000 | 03/30/05
Compatibility Mode  Bob/Paul | 04/01/05
Not the same type of OS  RicD_ | 03/30/05
yes but OSX runs OS9 under classic  hipparchus2000 | 03/31/05
Only when OS 9.x is installed  RicD_ | 03/31/05
If you have OSX only installed, when you try to run OS9 program, OSX asks..  hipparchus2000 | 03/31/05
hipparchus2000 you're correct  RicD_ | 03/31/05
I tried XPee  Chad_z | 03/30/05
Expect a wider and wider gap between Pro and Home.  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
Fragmentation  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Versions of Longhorn  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
Devil's advocate  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Not sure what you mean  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
I'm just pushing the logic  tic swayback | 03/30/05
What?1?  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Correct me if I'm wrong Shade  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Your corrections Tic!  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Thanks Shade  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Fragmentation  ShadeTree | 03/31/05
Minimum necessary Windows  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
The functions aren't removed just diabled.  mhuddy | 03/31/05
Don't you mean ...  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
As long as you only make one version of it...  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Please provide a reference  IT_User | 03/30/05
Remember Windows Reduced Media...  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
Heck where I work we still have some systems on Win95  Laff | 03/30/05
That's sad...  jpr75_z | 03/30/05
Well since I suppor the Mac and only the Mac it's not  Laff | 03/30/05
3.1 is also out there  Ken_z | 03/30/05
And that is the point...IF you do not need something  Laff | 03/30/05
There will be another ...  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Even after 5 years the answer is still no XP does not  Laff | 03/30/05
Time to move into the 21st century.  meetwo | 03/30/05
LINUX  harryomary1@... | 03/31/05
The problem with Linux...  RannXerox | 03/31/05
Well your first mistake  Linux User 147560 | 03/31/05
I agree  sir_cheats_a_lot | 03/31/05
Redhat is not designed  lengua99 | 04/01/05
It should sell well enough on new machines...  JonathonDoe | 03/30/05
New machine purchasers wont have a choice  Fred Fredrickson | 03/31/05
Throughout the article ...  Eggs Ackley_z | 03/30/05
But what will it cost us?  cd2_z | 03/30/05
What will it cost us  Afreind | 03/30/05
Cost  harryomary1@... | 03/31/05
But why spend $3K?  cd2_z | 04/01/05
What will it cost us vs to Microsoft  serrlussier@... | 03/31/05
Of course it will sell  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/30/05
Add hardware manufacturers to the list.  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
OSX isn't at issue here - in fact it's hardly an issue anyway  zeusfuse | 03/30/05
No one is switching?  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Significant observations  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
O'Reilly does get it.  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
Mac Switchers?  Scrat | 03/31/05
Have you even tried OS X?  mustang221@... | 03/30/05
Hmmmm.  hipshot49 | 03/30/05
Your numbers are a bit off  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Apple is in the forfront of innovation  olePigeon | 03/31/05
Unless....  Scrat | 03/31/05
Just a quick question  hipshot49 | 03/30/05
Worse than that.  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
ME Reputation is just!  Scrat | 03/31/05
Point taken  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
anton. point missed  kohuratahi | 03/31/05
Elaborate simile, reasonable point.  Anton Philidor | 04/01/05
Don't forget MS' licensing model  TrustMe_z | 03/31/05
Functionality second to security  Rodney Davis | 03/30/05
They will no doubt try an illegal way to make you upgrade..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 03/30/05
It will be done through product activation  DarthRidiculous | 03/30/05
Which is just....  KOS-MOS | 03/30/05
Re: It will be done through product activation  none none | 03/30/05
I wouldn't put money on that  DarthRidiculous | 03/30/05
Don't worry  lengua99 | 04/01/05
xp  meetwo | 03/30/05
I was just thinking that  IceTheNet@... | 03/30/05
And no doubt there will be an illegal way to upgrade  Scrat | 03/31/05
Still Crude - After all these years  jpr75_z | 03/30/05
Maybe by 2010 we will have truly useful, intelligent computers. I can only  meetwo | 03/30/05
Don't want Longhorn...We want LINUX  matrixdomain | 03/30/05
Using both  Fleeb | 03/31/05
Define We?  Scrat | 03/31/05
Longhorn not a technology....  Mike Cox | 03/30/05
7.1, although ...  Judas I. | 03/30/05
8.0  Real World | 03/30/05
Weeeeeee  IAHawkeye | 03/30/05
You can borrow my pliers...  Real World | 03/30/05
New here?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/30/05
Mike, Does Your Rep Wear A Safety Helmet And Suspenders?  itanalyst | 03/30/05
I know you've been here long enough  shallow_diver | 03/30/05
GIve him a break  toadlife | 03/30/05
Hey toady, can you help me out?  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
My wife wouldn't like that...  toadlife | 03/30/05
Thank you toadster!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Serious testing Jeff  TrustMe_z | 03/31/05
Trustme  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Well, TrustMe  Jeff Spicoli | 03/31/05
Spoon, you're really scaring me  Jeff Spicoli | 03/31/05
I don't have experience...  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
" What a time to be alive" LOL 8.5 (nt)  dave95 | 03/30/05
9.5  John L. Ries | 03/30/05
EXACTLY Mike  meetwo | 03/30/05
Longhorn  eyes | 03/30/05
My rep says  DarthRidiculous | 03/30/05
XP sucks, so will longhorn  chrisoverly@... | 03/31/05
i may buy longhorn for home use  charlescandy | 03/30/05
Heck, the long upgrade trail in Lotus Notes  FilledOut | 03/30/05
Battles MS faces  Ken_z | 03/30/05
No Price too High  meetwo | 03/30/05
No Price too High  meetwo | 03/30/05
Your analysis is right on track.  jrbeaman | 03/30/05
Mac backward compatibility  frabjous | 03/30/05
i agree Ken  chrisoverly@... | 03/31/05
The real issue here  Scrat | 03/31/05
Not poor  Linux User 147560 | 04/01/05
Upgrading for features -- or stability?  NeverLift | 03/30/05
License, Product, and Cost  swbobcat | 03/30/05
yep  sir_cheats_a_lot | 03/31/05
Win2kPro not so stable, either!  xtoptech@... | 04/01/05
Depends  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Good sales pitch John!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 03/30/05
Message has been deleted.  ShadeTree | 03/30/05
Message has been deleted.  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Message has been deleted.  ShadeTree | 03/31/05
Message has been deleted.  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Help Jeff, they're out to get us!  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Yeah Spoon, I don't know what happened with these "moderators"  Jeff Spicoli | 03/31/05
Keep telling yourself that, Jeff  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Was just pushing a few buttons John  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
So don't push those buttons  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
It's a test, my friend  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Strange logic  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Not really  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Hey John, I had forgotten to mention something..  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
This should work...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/31/05
So you're predicting a slow start for Longhorn?  tic swayback | 03/30/05
ROI  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/30/05
Your switch  rapson | 03/30/05
Taking the risk of annoying Apple fans...  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
Not everyone is religiously devoted to an OS, Anty  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Don't forget the Mini  Michael Kelly | 03/30/05
Let ME speak Carl (heehee)  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
My point is...  rapson | 03/31/05
My switch  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Life cycle  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/30/05
Thanks, I forgot about the life cycle  tic swayback | 03/30/05
Any comment on how Longhorn and Office...  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
Good question  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Why keep around an older OS?  John L. Ries | 03/30/05
Reasons  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Depends...  John L. Ries | 03/30/05
.NET's popularity  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
That's right  michael-t | 03/30/05
What the heck is .NET?  jrbeaman | 03/30/05
Interesting: marketing `logic' from a non-marketing guy  michael-t | 03/30/05
I think businesses and developers will find Longhorn interesting  meetwo | 03/30/05
Have you seen the WinFX API?  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 03/30/05
Just what we need.  jrbeaman | 03/30/05
Hmmm, I found that XP sped things up  Mark Miller | 03/31/05
We are still finishing XP updates  wcikanek@... | 03/30/05
I'll stick to what I've got Thank You  aabaker | 03/30/05
Consider Corporations use of Win 2000  norm52 | 03/30/05
What does Microsoft need to do to make me buy Longhorn?  Userama | 03/30/05
Longhorn could be tough sell for Microsoft  Loverock Davidson | 03/30/05
ya sure  meetwo | 03/30/05
Longhorn will Rule  MIS Master | 03/30/05
A fancy new GUI, that's a real reason to switch! (NOT)  CobraA1 | 03/30/05
You will be using it too  MIS Master | 03/30/05
I'll probably be keeping XP or going Linux  CobraA1 | 03/30/05
Go OSX!  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
Athlon64 crushes G5 for multimedia  zeusfuse | 03/30/05
Athlon64 crushes G5 for multimedia  dianecmiles@... | 03/30/05
What my plans are*smile* I was actually planning on getting an Athlon64 wink.  CobraA1 | 03/30/05
On which planet?  Fred Fredrickson | 03/31/05
Re: I'll probably be keeping XP or going Linux  none none | 03/30/05
Maturity  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/31/05
And what makes you so sure there, tough guy?  Jeff Spicoli | 03/30/05
oh please...  sir_cheats_a_lot | 03/31/05
But its a bright shiny apple  FilledOut | 03/30/05
Longhorn will Rule  meetwo | 03/30/05
Linux rules even it's new GUI rocks  matrixdomain | 03/30/05
Probably ... NOT  kray_z | 03/30/05
WinXP is 5 years old by what math?  derzehn | 03/30/05
Longhorn is to be released in 2006  Mantvis | 03/30/05
RTFA...  Fred Fredrickson | 03/31/05
I DID RTFA!  derzehn | 03/31/05
Of couse it will, you won't be able to use your new apps otherwise.  CobraA1 | 03/30/05
I said it before...  Omch'Ar | 03/30/05
Deja Vu All Over Again  dl@... | 03/30/05
Who does?  Spoon Jabber | 03/30/05
OT: Who does?  DonHarrington | 03/30/05
Hardly  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
... ahm... you do know that the General THEORY of Relativity...  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
Concerns gravity?  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Yes, gravity.  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
Oh, I see!  Spoon Jabber | 03/31/05
Conspiracy  scott88008 | 03/30/05
That is supposed to be a secret  Spoon Jabber | 03/30/05
Unless Its Free, I'll Stick With XP  bweir13 | 03/30/05
Computer illiterate perfectly describes many...  Jake M.D. | 03/30/05
America's Computer Illiteracy is Evident  bweir13 | 03/30/05
Observation  Anton Philidor | 03/30/05
I agree  bweir13 | 03/30/05
One chance.  Anton Philidor | 03/31/05
Except that's sometimes what Windows itself recommends.  Zogg | 03/30/05
Barely got 'XP' running well, switch!?!?!  rohn_z | 03/30/05
General public screwed over  bomar46 | 03/30/05
Longhorn will be impossible to sell to me  rlink@... | 03/30/05
Same here  Hsbarney@... | 03/30/05
Microsoft rule the world  ncawthray@... | 03/30/05
NO!  M_c | 03/30/05
longhorn tough sell  ps_1130@... | 03/30/05
Talk Sense - MS have played smart for 20 years  GetReal-mac.com | 03/30/05
Well said  cou-cou | 04/01/05
Are you Brain Dead?  lengua99 | 04/02/05
I'm very much alive and kicking!!!  GetReal-mac.com | 04/15/05
A new OS is always predicted to be a tough sell.  Cbarnhorst | 03/30/05
Hackers will rip it apart  soulcircus | 03/30/05
What should be done.........????????  Tennisyoda@... | 03/30/05
Longhorn  tqmiso@... | 03/30/05
Perhaps; But Not To Me  lbattis@... | 03/30/05
Testing  Linux User 147560 | 03/30/05
Since you asked . . .  DaffyDuck | 03/30/05
Longhorn vs Linux  dw5437@... | 03/30/05
well, not exactly...  Googey10 | 03/31/05
Don't kneed XP, Don't need Longhorn  Devon_z | 03/30/05
Longhorn  dianecmiles@... | 03/30/05
Longhorn longshot  bartonlp | 03/30/05
Longtooth  swbobcat | 03/30/05
Nobody buys Windows  fretinator@... | 03/30/05
clueless statement of the day  jogiba@... | 03/31/05
Really- April the first ?  hcb_z | 04/02/05
Really- April the first ?  hcb_z | 04/02/05
Rebuttal to Mac lover posts  Crestview | 03/30/05
Well said, Dan..  chicko | 04/01/05
zdnet trolling for hits for the popup ads  jogiba@... | 03/30/05
Pop up ads?  Linux User 147560 | 03/31/05
Longhorn For Home Use  bambiandthumper | 03/30/05
longhorn  gselby4@... | 03/30/05
Another dream from the anti-MS group  blacksheepxlch1 | 04/03/05
Why??  robertjvan | 03/30/05
longhorn  wscott21 | 03/30/05
Monopoly ?  curta_z | 03/30/05
Not in this life time!  tystoy45 | 03/30/05
XP is here for too long  Mantvis | 03/30/05
Longhorn a disappointment to me.  crashoverride | 03/30/05
I think MS said winfs won't be included  hipparchus2000 | 03/31/05
Longhorn not really SOLD  BrtRbrtsN@... | 03/30/05
Sure it will sell.  rsons@... | 03/31/05
who can buy something so problematic and cost-unefficient?  Digitalcomet | 03/31/05
Maybe I'll be ready in 2007 or 2008  doctormoriarty | 03/31/05
Of course it will sell  just-me_z | 03/31/05
Why purchase Longhorn, waiting for XP 64  bsdubois@... | 03/31/05
Didn't you hear about that lawsuit?  lengua99 | 04/02/05
When I think of Longhorn, I think of DRM.  shadar | 03/31/05
Eventually MS will declare anything BUT Longhorn "legacy"  bachware | 03/31/05
Longhorn  porcone | 03/31/05
Just a home computer persons opinion!!  everinblujeansf@... | 03/31/05
Let's hope it's not hard to do....  3105 | 03/31/05
Longhorn verses the Other Windows OS  lvincent45 | 03/31/05
At this point, it seems like an OS that will build in popularity over time  Mark Miller | 03/31/05
I won't be switching...  sir_cheats_a_lot | 03/31/05
Priced right out of the Market!  the_webninja@... | 04/01/05
Upgrades  shanedr | 04/01/05
Longhorn will sell  agg9900@... | 04/01/05
Longhorn is wait and see, for me  sckinz1 | 04/01/05
Longhorn/Longwait  jtprescottjr@... | 04/01/05
I WANT LONGHORN  CoolChrisHop0553692004 | 04/01/05
Folks still bashing XP???  Joe Donovan | 04/01/05
Longhorn upgrade  hbaker | 04/01/05
Not this discussion again!  mmckee58 | 04/01/05
Maybe Microsoft will have to try a new tack.  SimonSays | 04/01/05
Longhorn? Who cares!  GaryS_z | 04/01/05
Let the SPIN begin!  Northwolf | 04/01/05
Longhorn - Microsoft  rob70949 | 04/01/05
i want to purchase  sarita_z | 04/01/05
Most people are lemmings to good marketing..sad but true  Teyecoon | 04/01/05
longhorn  fred bijk | 04/02/05
Longhorn could be a tough sell?  madpoet | 04/02/05
I'll take it...if it is 64 bit.for AMD  nirvana4all@... | 04/02/05
I feel the same, but...........  jackklein61@... | 04/02/05
What about all the University Licensing  mjs1902 | 04/04/05
They have no choice  wresnick | 04/04/05
Although  Spoon Jabber | 04/04/05
longhorn...who wants it? why have any version of windows?  canoe@... | 04/04/05
It's the price, stupid.  wresnick | 04/04/05
What kind of GAMES can Longhorn play?  JV711 | 04/05/05
Destined to never to buy Longhorn  ramunno | 04/18/05

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