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Proprietary software is useless! Trash it all!
Dump Microsoft! It's pure garbage! Go with linux and save yourselves! Long live Dr. Torvalds! Praised be Dr. Torvalds!
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Proprietary software is useless! Trash it all!  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/16/03
Once again Linux community opens their  memuser | 12/16/03
how is this article about m$?  stephen732@... | 12/16/03
Nonsense  chrichton99 | 12/16/03
your argument does nohing  ryusen | 12/16/03
a contention  ryusen | 12/16/03
Microsoft is the one that would lose here if they go Open Source  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
A question  voska | 12/16/03
A very good question.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
OSS can also be used as a platform for proprietary software  Taz_z | 12/16/03
Huh? Check your logic  quietLee | 12/18/03
Get a sense of humor  voska | 12/16/03
Exactly Dude  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/16/03
heard this before  voska | 12/16/03
You're right, but...  maestronn | 12/19/03
A surprising article....  mlindl | 12/16/03
Don't know if you noticed...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
I agree  voska | 12/16/03
BEOS:  ryusen | 12/16/03
Uh ... no ... not really.  coffeenite | 12/17/03
Two sides to the story...  Fred Fredrickson | 12/18/03
by ethics,  ryusen | 12/16/03
As opposed to your contrived articles? (NT)  dscherf | 12/16/03
Just what is Microsoft so good...  mlindl | 12/18/03
Coupla things...  dscherf | 12/18/03
But attacking the messenger....  mlindl | 12/19/03
John, I almost totally agree with you?!  jim_oflaherty_jr | 12/18/03
No preference, they just decided the open source will work best for them.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Well Said Donnie!  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/16/03
Polar Thinking  civikminded | 12/16/03
Here is why open source is so atractive in developing countries.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
No...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Yes. . . . .  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
What are you talking about  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Every business and every government has a ritght to decide.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Governments and costs  Update victim | 12/17/03
RE: Governments and costs  nrlz | 12/22/03
RE: Yes. . . . .  nrlz | 12/22/03
Obvious point if I may..  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/16/03
John, Al Capone was good at making money, too  mlindl | 12/19/03
Ah, but then you'd have to include...  Mark Miller | 12/20/03
doomed?  ryusen | 12/16/03
Carroll is dead on once again  Mike Cox | 12/16/03
No both of you are wrong...  serpentmage | 12/16/03
And where is Mr. Carroll, why does he have nothing to say.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Well, finally, here he is, he must have heard me!  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
You seem to forget or ignore that  Taz_z | 12/16/03
IBM is a SERVICE oriented company  Robert Crocker | 12/16/03
Re-read your EULA  techboy_z | 12/16/03
Don't feel like thinking of a title  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Profit doesn't come from thin air...  Robert Crocker | 12/16/03
More Stuff  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
insert subject here  ryusen | 12/17/03
It OS does the job...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
You must enter a title for your message  ryusen | 12/17/03
it also put billions in the bank  JWatson77 | 12/16/03
Yes, very true, John wants you to think that every penny goes into R&D  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Yep...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
So are you arguing that Microsoft does not have good margins??  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Margins Do Not Matter ...  coffeenite | 12/17/03
Feature, Function, Benefit  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
What exactly are 'standards of comparison'?  Taz_z | 12/16/03
What the customer uses to decide  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
Software and widgets are a tough comparison  Taz_z | 12/16/03
Doesn't "prove" anything  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
MS Blaster  voska | 12/16/03
How many machines?  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
We had 1000+ Machines  voska | 12/16/03
It proves everything  Taz_z | 12/16/03
Linux / OSS are here to stay.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Where is linux/OSS going next?  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
That's why...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Linux can eat Unix without killing the Unix vendors.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Don't bet on it...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Yes, proprietary Unix will go away, but that is not bad for SUN, HP, or IBM  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Don't bet on that either, DonnieBoy  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Yes, they would have to compete on the merits, good for customers  DonnieBoy | 12/17/03
The merits of the same Intel hardware??  Mark Miller | 12/20/03
Linux can go where it needs to go.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Are you kidding?  Taz_z | 12/16/03
didn't ms say  JWatson77 | 12/16/03
GPL does NOT exclude patents  Robert Crocker | 12/16/03
Come on...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Completely wrong  Robert Crocker | 12/16/03
Good Point...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
but...  ryusen | 12/16/03
Yes, but...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
you are reversing the issue  ryusen | 12/17/03
GPL and Patent Trading  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
Stuff  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
No, it doesn't  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
IBM sells Linux SOFTWARE TOO!  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
You're still missing it, Rob  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Regarding IBM's Linux Software (to Rob)  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Still missing the crucial points (to John)  Robert Crocker | 12/18/03
Why so?  dscherf | 12/16/03
Dont you think....  memuser | 12/16/03
Who's bashing who ?  NT Admin | 12/16/03
I wouldn't want to see that world either  voska | 12/16/03
the best?  ryusen | 12/16/03
memuser, your abject DENIAL of M$ MONOPOLY renders your whole argument moot  dicktaurus@... | 12/16/03
Antitrust violations led to monopoly  Update victim | 12/17/03
Actually, the reverse  rapson | 12/18/03
Interesting Argument, but misguided...  serpentmage | 12/16/03
Misapplie logic  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
It's the old 60s logic  rapson | 12/16/03
You're right, to a certain extent  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Yes, but you seem to think that Governments don't have a right to decide.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
My argument is utilitarian  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
it's still their choice  ryusen | 12/16/03
But John, this is not preference, you are telling them how to run IT  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
Utilitarian?  Jose Jimenez | 12/17/03
(to ZZ) John is a citizen too. He has a right...  Mark Miller | 12/21/03
Good luck (really!)  rapson | 12/16/03
that's logic?  voska | 12/16/03
People buy things to benefit from them  Bill Weisgerber | 12/16/03
I disagree here.  voska | 12/16/03
Not always true...  Patrick Jones | 12/16/03
Flawed logic  techboy_z | 12/16/03
OS COSTS  Joe Blow_z | 12/16/03
Just Priced out PC  voska | 12/16/03
Burlington Industries are wrong ???  Update victim | 12/16/03
Great...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Gov Over Reacting again  voska | 12/16/03
But if Burlington has a right to roll it out company wide, why not govs  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
That's true  voska | 12/16/03
Burlington isn't 30% of the economy  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Well, yes, government contracts can be huge.  DonnieBoy | 12/16/03
I'm not emperor of the world  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Again John, you are arguing that are making the wrong IT decision.  DonnieBoy | 12/17/03
30%  Update victim | 12/17/03
It's about policy, DonnieBoy  Mark Miller | 12/21/03
Why not...  Patrick Jones | 12/16/03
See my Not 30% post to DonnieBoy  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
Saw the post and you are wrong....  Patrick Jones | 12/17/03
So...  azurensis | 12/17/03
Yes, I would  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
B.S. John  Rick_K | 12/16/03
Who makes the policy?  John L. Ries | 01/01/04
JC's Paradox:Everybody is wrong but JC and MS  David Mohring | 12/16/03
John CArrolll and Microsoft propaganda have become synonymous  jellyclock | 12/16/03
Selfishness, egoism and greed....  Mikael_z | 12/17/03
Free software, MORE JOBS, no monopolies, no piracy ?  Vily Clay | 12/16/03
Funny thing is...  ryusen | 12/16/03
ok, real reply:  ryusen | 12/16/03
I agree with...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/16/03
but...  ryusen | 12/16/03
No, I don't...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
And there's your conclusion. Good.  Anton Philidor | 12/17/03
Regarding government policy  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Adequate for the purpose (Replying - stupid tbk)  Anton Philidor | 12/17/03
No, we're not disagreeing  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Now there's a loaded question.  Anton Philidor | 12/17/03
stupid reply  ryusen | 12/17/03
in addtion  ryusen | 12/16/03
I disagree  John L. Ries | 01/01/04
Numerous flaws  mrroach | 12/16/03
John continues to show a complete lack of understanding of os  Richard Flude | 12/16/03
A response  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
This isn't just about free versus bought  NemesisNL | 12/17/03
The future, Conan?  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
A response to your response  Richard Flude | 12/17/03
Who is going to make money????  stmueller | 12/18/03
John, you left your argument unfinished...  Anton Philidor | 12/16/03
you are missing a point  ryusen | 12/16/03
You're agreeing with me (and John)  Anton Philidor | 12/16/03
not really.  ryusen | 12/17/03
Is the arguement you're talking about the one with all the holes in it?  Richard Flude | 12/16/03
No, the flawed argument's an invention  Anton Philidor | 12/16/03
Specious assertions  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
If they're specious, don't use them; use mine instead  Anton Philidor | 12/17/03
They WERE your assertions  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
I think I see the tangle  Anton Philidor | 12/17/03
Bizarre definition of proprietary  Robert Crocker | 12/17/03
On 'proprietary'  Anton Philidor | 12/18/03
I simply dont agree  ParadigmOdyssey | 12/16/03
Apple  Harry Bardal | 12/16/03
I like the hybrid model  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 12/17/03
Apple excluded from open source?  mlindl | 12/18/03
Linux this, Linux that  mikeeemike | 12/17/03
John, I almost totally agree with you?!  jim_oflaherty_jr | 12/18/03
John, I almost totally agree with you?!  jim_oflaherty_jr | 12/18/03
For once I'd like to agree, but...  Doug K | 12/18/03
Long Winded, even for John  Fred Fredrickson | 12/19/03
I think ZDNet should hire Fred...  mlindl | 12/19/03
The reality is......  maestronn | 12/19/03
proprietary software doesn't even need a business reason  JWatson77 | 12/21/03
The beginning of the end of .NET?  JWatson77 | 12/26/03
only a issue to john because pref is not ms  JWatson77 | 12/31/03
Re: In defense of proprietory software  John L. Ries | 01/01/04
in defense of no red cross  JWatson77 | 01/07/04
"Judicious use of patents"  meadi8r@... | 11/05/04

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