What if someone changes hardware (PC) without system?
FirstNLastN | 03/01/05
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What are you ranting about?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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I may be wrong but....
brble | 03/01/05
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That would be the vendors problem.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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NO - that is a ms problem
JasonL31 | 03/01/05
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You really need to check your facts guy.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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But the activation issue is with Microsoft
brble | 03/01/05
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Aw but...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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Ax - who are you
TrustMe_z | 03/02/05
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Simple solution
voska | 03/02/05
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Utterly inappropriate analogy
Fred Fredrickson | 03/01/05
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You make my point for me. Thanks
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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Your logic is twisted
Fred Fredrickson | 03/02/05
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I smell a class action suit..
d_jedi | 03/02/05
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Read the Eula!
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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But then the fair question becomes why would MS do
Laff | 03/01/05
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But this isn't at Microsoft's behest
Fred Fredrickson | 03/01/05
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Are we cetain that the OEM's asked this of MS? It's not
Laff | 03/01/05
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The OEMs asked for a way...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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So what defines 'machine' ?
BitTwiddler | 03/02/05
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The pre-activation is locked to motherboards ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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You should do what you suggest - cause you are wrong
quietLee | 03/02/05
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That is not the EULA from an OEM version of XP
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Absolute nonsense!
wresnick | 03/03/05
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Yea Right
osreinstall | 03/03/05
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Yeah, wrong
wresnick | 03/03/05
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Whatever
osreinstall | 03/06/05
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Comfortably numb yet?
osreinstall | 03/01/05
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There's a lot more there..
Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
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If I am reading you correctly....
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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I rebuilt a friend pc with a OEM XP restore cd
JasonL31 | 03/01/05
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You obviously do not know how XP and activation work!
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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OEMand retail versions can be installed on any PC.
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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It is my job to know and you sir ...
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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You should try Dell, IBM, ...
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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We, like the other OEMs have samples of
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Now you just sound clueless!
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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You are the one that is clueless.
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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ShadeTree, you killed your own credability.
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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I told you ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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If you say so... But...
Wolfie2K3 | 03/02/05
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ShadeTree has never restored a system, he doesn't know...
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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I just got back from my lab where I tested ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Not from what I've seen
voska | 03/02/05
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What a load of FUD
quietLee | 03/02/05
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OEM
voska | 03/02/05
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So another post you said I was wrong but ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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You did spout a load of FUD
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Are you yanking our chain?
osreinstall | 03/01/05
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You should get some technical training!
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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You need some legal training
osreinstall | 03/01/05
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People who think are a problem for Microsoft?
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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Crooks are often clever. What's your point BOFH?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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BOFH tsk tsk
osreinstall | 03/01/05
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Ah, No_Ax the Copyright infringer speaks up!
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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osreinstall, ever do a rollout of network oevrnight?
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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Did you ever do it legally?
osreinstall | 03/01/05
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RE: People who think are a problem for Microsoft?
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Just for the BOFH
osreinstall | 03/02/05
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osreinstall, get a clue about Microsoft volume licensing!
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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What is an OEM license. lesson for you all
voska | 03/02/05
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BOFH we know about the many licenses
osreinstall | 03/02/05
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Voska sure
osreinstall | 03/02/05
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Not according to the license agreement
ZzSmirKzZ | 03/02/05
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Format the drive
voska | 03/02/05
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Not really
just-me_z | 03/05/05
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Well
matrix57 | 03/03/05
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Won't be a pain for them
Chad_z | 03/01/05
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Not true...
DarbyOhara | 03/02/05
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One more time for the Linux impaired!
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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OEM is not locked to hardware, just as the retail versio isn't.
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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Having worked for one of the top 3 PC OEMs and ...
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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Try again, here is how it works!
B.O.F.H. | 03/01/05
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Technically Possible or Not...
brble | 03/01/05
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That seems absurd..
Patrick Jones | 03/02/05
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I agree
brble | 03/02/05
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Yikes.
d_jedi | 03/02/05
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You will have to activate ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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As to my qualifications ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Only while installed
voska | 03/02/05
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Why those Bastids!
Cardinal_Bill | 03/01/05
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Almost OEMs preactivate for you(nt)
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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Correction
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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"Authorized Dealers" (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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Linux doen't need activation
matrixdomain | 03/01/05
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So what...
DarbyOhara | 03/02/05
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Somebody explain this to me, please
CobraA1 | 03/01/05
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No updates allowed.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
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Here's How
allancrf | 03/03/05
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This is absurd
Fred Fredrickson | 03/01/05
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The EULA you accept tells you and ...
ShadeTree | 03/01/05
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You presume
Fred Fredrickson | 03/01/05
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Please explain that...
Patrick Jones | 03/02/05
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As long as you haven't broken ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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But that's the rub....
Patrick Jones | 03/02/05
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This also happened in Australia some years back.
B.O.F.H. | 03/02/05
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It is called a package deal.
osreinstall | 03/02/05
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Not everything should be taken sitting down
nosada@... | 03/03/05
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I agree
osreinstall | 03/03/05
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How do you do that, exactly?
d_jedi | 03/02/05
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It is difficult in the best of circumstances.
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Uh huh, and Social Security numbers won't be used for ID purposes.
Letophoro | 03/01/05
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Come on Kiddies - time to sign up!
dave95 | 03/01/05
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The real reason for this
DarthRidiculous | 03/02/05
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Activation Stinks
RickyF | 03/02/05
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How does this affect ghosting?
Patrick Jones | 03/02/05
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It is different between the OS and applications.
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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We do...
Patrick Jones | 03/02/05
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Stop all this logic, drink the Kool-ade and praise the Knight!
Sunny Jalolly | 03/02/05
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Deployment Woes
jetball | 03/03/05
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Further proof how clueless Microsoft is...
BitTwiddler | 03/02/05
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Monopoly means....
WhoDaMan | 03/02/05
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No no no
FilledOut | 03/03/05
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Activation is and will remain to be a pain
FilledOut | 03/02/05
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How so?
tslocum7 | 03/02/05
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If you had actually went through the ...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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Don't like it? Put your $ where your mouth is.
ITGuy04 | 03/02/05
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Exactly
dave95 | 03/03/05
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Activation not a pain
soulcircus | 03/02/05
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If you had read the article you would know...
ShadeTree | 03/02/05
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My Alienware 7700 XP Pro OEM required activation
GreatInca | 03/04/05
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It's obvious you don't use the system.
allancrf | 03/03/05
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I wanna install on my new and old systems. ANd only Emule can help.
GreatInca | 03/04/05
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MIcrosoft people is mad
asaverio@... | 03/03/05
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Microsoft: Activation shift won't be a pain
fetter | 03/03/05
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Microsoft: Activation shift won't be a pain
fetter | 03/03/05
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i roger righettini use win 98se and have very little or no problems at all
r_righettini@... | 03/03/05
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I DO have a legal copy of Windows. I'll be happy to share updates on Emule
GreatInca | 03/04/05
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