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Good copy
..for a tabloid.
I absolutley agree.
This made up story that pitted OSS agaonst MS is a total red herring while you summed it up in a sentence.

..Software patents are a deep concern. Period....

Joe
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Either way  Linux User 147560 | 02/01/05
Microsoft is loooong overdue..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
Which way  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
with a shovel, duh!  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
You have to ask?  Linux User 147560 | 02/02/05
time frame  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Did you fail to read the current  Linux User 147560 | 02/02/05
scared one  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Ain't gonna happen!  MacGeek2121 | 02/04/05
Oh...  Linux User 147560 | 02/04/05
Once again...  IT_User | 02/01/05
Good copy  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
Isn't there an independant...  Mack DaNife | 02/02/05
arbitrary zdnet MS throw-in  hickum | 02/01/05
IBM has MS down pat.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Points  rapson | 02/02/05
er,... I think you missed my point.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Clear(er)  rapson | 02/02/05
A lot of competitors have suffered far more than Microsoft  MacGeek2121 | 02/04/05
Linus hates patents because he does not invent.  pa2004 | 02/01/05
If you can point to *anything* in Linux "borrowed" from SCO...  Zogg | 02/02/05
Open source forever!!!!!!!!!!  yeminanthony@... | 02/02/05
no innovation?  seal101 | 02/02/05
You must not be a programmer.  pa2004 | 02/02/05
Apparently, you are not, either  rgafron@... | 02/02/05
I agree with pa2004  rkadowns | 02/02/05
You want to know the innovations?  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
P.S., OS/2 and Microsoft.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Bravo!!  FreeBSD | 02/02/05
Not one thing  rkadowns | 02/02/05
Re: Not one thing (rkadowns)  The King's Servant | 02/03/05
sure, ms is innovative.  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
more open fud  osreinstall | 02/02/05
I checked  Update victim | 02/02/05
kernel-net explorer!  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
AI = Always Incomprehensible  Roger Ramjet | 02/02/05
RE: Linus hates patents  RParent | 02/02/05
If you say so  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Shoulders of giants  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 02/04/05
No way to determine prior art  Nigel Johnstone | 02/02/05
So close....  seosamh_z | 02/02/05
I think you missed the point  Nigel Johnstone | 02/02/05
er,... I think you missed his point. You wer so close, too.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Keeping the code secret isn't enough.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
But, Copyrights are to protect thought,  Update victim | 02/02/05
what's your point?  seal101 | 02/02/05
Why should anyone have a monopoly on an idea.  much2old | 02/02/05
patent wars  seal101 | 02/02/05
You are Correct  Progress_z | 02/02/05
Nothing Good About Software Patents  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
P. you rant along and ignore what small guys have said,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Ouch, beautiful point!  NonZealot | 02/02/05
Goose and gander???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Except that patents are not necessarily here to stay...  Root User | 02/02/05
Whoa  rapson | 02/02/05
Won't be any...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
RIAA and MPAA  SantiagoCrespo | 02/02/05
Yup, truth can often be funny.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Keep looking, Diogenes  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Excellent point  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
Ax? Certainly not the sharpest in the shed...  ab@... | 02/02/05
Patent check, patent balance  djohnson@... | 02/02/05
your point?  seal101 | 02/02/05
When you have lsot the debate, throw insults like a child.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
My Rebuttal  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
You call that a rebutal?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Well..  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
It was much better than yours..  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
trivial patents with prior art are the problem  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
My Rebuttal  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
P2P Software and Patents are Very Different  P. Douglas | 02/02/05
Small guys  Anti_Zealot | 02/04/05
another viewpoint  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Software patents are definitely more bad than good  dbman4088 | 02/04/05
Now or for ever?  pvn | 03/09/05
Open-source honchos trash software patents  Loverock Davidson | 02/02/05
The only people crying  rkadowns | 02/02/05
Well, and a few others  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
That figures  rkadowns | 02/02/05
Wow  ab@... | 02/02/05
To deny that these countries  rkadowns | 02/02/05
?  johnnyu | 02/02/05
Chicago School Socialists  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
They may be  Linux User 147560 | 02/02/05
Ahhh!  rkadowns | 02/02/05
From patents to health insurance  johnnyu | 02/02/05
any references?  seal101 | 02/02/05
Importance  tystoy45 | 02/02/05
What a DUMB headline...  BitTwiddler | 02/02/05
Doesn't it just desperately BECKON a raging flame war?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
It does at that...  ab@... | 02/02/05
Maybe Washington is Listening  Progress_z | 02/02/05
Talk about a loaded statement.  IT Scion | 02/02/05
Hypocrits, gotta love 'em!  NonZealot | 02/02/05
This Microsoft obsession is damaging.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
It's like...  rapson | 02/02/05
Kill  rkadowns | 02/02/05
Well...  rapson | 02/02/05
I program because I love it  voska | 02/02/05
Use BSD  rkadowns | 02/02/05
I program because I get paid to  Stewart Cannon | 02/02/05
International System?  ab@... | 02/02/05
Recognition by agreement.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
This argument shot down months ago.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
And your interlocutor never shouted, "Missed!"...  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Did you read the full Wiki entry?  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
are you saying WTO is the US?  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Of course the EU is giving out software patents.  Anton Philidor | 02/03/05
unfortunately getting a patent and it surviving being challenged not same  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
It certainly has been for you!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
making an assumption there  voska | 02/02/05
Speaking of hypocrites... happy  MacCanuck | 02/02/05
Patents are good  robradina@... | 02/02/05
True in some cases, but not here  rgafron@... | 02/02/05
Copyright is MEANINGLESS in software.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
That's not how patents are supposed to work  voska | 02/02/05
No, that is your "opinion", not the facts.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
why have copyrights then?  voska | 02/02/05
Copyright works well for written works and music  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Code is a written work  voska | 02/02/05
Not really..  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
Best check it out  lengua99 | 02/07/05
Good point, except...  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
It should also have to be non trivial  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
Nice twistage  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Copyrights are not patents  wresnick | 02/04/05
Look at what patents are being written for  johnlb2002 | 02/04/05
Tell that to Bill Gates  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
How Bill G. does something...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Ummm dude  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
So in other words  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Show me one useful patent....  ab@... | 02/02/05
How about mine..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Is it a software patent?  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
Yes it is patented...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
RE: Yes it is patented...  Michael Kelly | 02/02/05
Kelly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
I hate ZDNet's limitations...  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
No_Ax and copying...  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
RE: Kelly  Michael Kelly | 02/02/05
Re AX: Kelly and the printing Press  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Patrick and copying...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
No_Ax  Patrick Jones | 02/03/05
You've piqued my curiosity  Michael Kelly | 02/02/05
Not a chance...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
We already know the name of your company, Don!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
RE: Not a chance...  Michael Kelly | 02/02/05
Prior art  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
what an apt example  seal101 | 02/02/05
Delusional  osreinstall | 02/03/05
Patenting the idea  rgafron@... | 02/04/05
One other thing  rgafron@... | 02/04/05
Patenting A clothespin, not THE clothespin.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Safety razors  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Don't tell me they patented shaving?!  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Not quite  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Should get the story right.  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
the problem with software patents  seal101 | 02/02/05
Patenting  osreinstall | 02/03/05
Interesting thoughts...  robradina@... | 02/04/05
Interesting -- but ....  johnlb2002 | 02/04/05
Patents on "common use" are bad  rrnach | 02/04/05
Paperwork  osreinstall | 02/04/05
But if I show any prior art  johnlb2002 | 02/04/05
US Patent law does not allow patenting ideas  DickCaro | 02/05/05
Not True  osreinstall | 02/05/05
Make millions out of a great thought!  agottschald | 02/06/05
Consider: The only ones whining is open source.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Not really any different...  rapson | 02/02/05
Re: Not really any different...  none none | 02/04/05
You're right.. the EU must be imaginary...  Xunil_Sierutuf | 02/02/05
No, but your argument is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Wrong (yet again)  ab@... | 02/02/05
As I said, SHOW ME.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Fools  rkadowns | 02/02/05
But it doesn't work  voska | 02/02/05
Nothing is perfect now is it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
You illustrate my point on Biased perfectly  voska | 02/02/05
Take your personal opinions somewhere else.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Simple Change would almost be a FIX  Progress_z | 02/04/05
wrong patents are to serve society not business  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Serving business serves society.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
so pay a guy for filing trivial patents instead of more to a real genius  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
Re: No, but your argument is.  none none | 02/04/05
Sorry, No_Ax, this argument is bogus  Root User | 02/02/05
Show me then...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Easy (well maybe not 50)..  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
Sorry, not a single business in them.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Um...  Patrick Jones | 02/02/05
Sorry, but check his real stance...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Yes..  Patrick Jones | 02/03/05
the maximisation of technology for the benefit of the people  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
Dude, do you stop to think?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
I'd like to see 100. No, 50...  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Irregardless  Spoon Jabber | 02/03/05
Re: Show me then...  none none | 02/04/05
As usual, bitty too ignorant to provide proof  AmusedAtItAll | 02/05/05
Why wouldn't innovation be harmed?  voska | 02/02/05
Show me what branch of code development that isn't  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
That's right now, I'm talking about tomorow  voska | 02/02/05
You have it backward...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Software pantents existed 200 years ago  voska | 02/02/05
How about 10?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
No, the patent process did.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
I'd like to see the proof, No_Ax  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
You need proof? Do you have eyes?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
Thanks for confirming you have no proof  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
Cobra, let me take you by the hand then.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
The Greatest econimic power? ...Innovator?  The King's Servant | 02/03/05
I know we're an economic/technological leader, I never denied it.  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
happy  osreinstall | 02/02/05
EXACTLLY RIGHT!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
are you kidding, these effect everyone  JasonL31 | 02/02/05
Yes, and for the MAJORITY it's a positive effect.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
Because . . .  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
And once more I take you by the hand...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
nice  CobraA1 | 02/03/05
objective one  osreinstall | 02/03/05
RE: And once more I take you by the hand...  none none | 02/04/05
far and away most software business is in custom software  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
Isn't it interesting...  PA-ITGuy | 02/02/05
the little guy ain't a programmer...  seal101 | 02/02/05
Some of us recall your whining about this issue...  B.O.F.H. | 02/02/05
Some of us recall you having made sense, once.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
You aren't listening  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 02/04/05
Consider: The only ones whining is open source.  rldc1_2000@... | 02/04/05
Patent "donations" a good idea?  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
Good point  rapson | 02/02/05
don't give software patents legitimacy  seal101 | 02/02/05
Spot Light that FOOBAR  Progress_z | 02/02/05
Perhaps we need a clearer definition ...  mwagner@... | 02/02/05
Not the IDEA  Progress_z | 02/02/05
Note...  ab@... | 02/02/05
A monopoly of idea  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
But Jefferson was pro-agrarian...  Anton Philidor | 02/02/05
It's about who you reward in society  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
A monopoly of idea  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
You cannot patent the thought of catching or trapping a mouse.  The King's Servant | 02/02/05
Not any more  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
I spake not of what has been granted by fools  The King's Servant | 02/03/05
Implementation, not idea  PA-ITGuy | 02/02/05
Sweet grapes?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
not to mention...  linuxoverwindows | 02/02/05
It's All About CHOICE Bitty....  itanalyst | 02/02/05
Your post is so off topic it deserves no responce.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/02/05
I thought the "sidekick" wasn't worth responding to!  Jeff Spicoli | 02/02/05
Don't You Have Some Employees To Monitor?  itanalyst | 02/02/05
regarding choice  osreinstall | 02/02/05
software patents  ragnars | 02/02/05
No U didn't  Progress_z | 02/02/05
Software Patents  andymac@... | 02/02/05
Sure  osreinstall | 02/02/05
CNET trashes Open Source...  daver_z | 02/02/05
The purpose of Patents was to help humanity.  daver_z | 02/02/05
Real purpose  osreinstall | 02/02/05
uh... which opensource universe are you talking about?  seal101 | 02/02/05
GPL  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Winner take all?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/02/05
Clueless again  osreinstall | 02/02/05
You're entitled to your opinion, but courts have decided that you are wrong  Root User | 02/02/05
it is under appeal  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Speech doesn't have to be understood by laypersons  Root User | 02/02/05
no it does not  osreinstall | 02/02/05
Not likely to be overturned...  Root User | 02/02/05
It should be  osreinstall | 02/03/05
If code is a mathematical algorithm, then it can't be patented...  widge_z | 02/03/05
re code  osreinstall | 02/03/05
ok, so...  widge_z | 02/03/05
You are missing the ag=rgument entirely.  The King's Servant | 02/03/05
wishful thinking  osreinstall | 02/03/05
You agree with me.  daver_z | 02/03/05
sort of  osreinstall | 02/04/05
The system is breaking down.  agottschald | 02/06/05
Open sourcers are OTL  osreinstall | 02/07/05
Creating wealth serves humanity.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/05
Not always. Developing novel ideas does though.  daver_z | 02/03/05
You really need to get out more!  B.O.F.H. | 02/04/05
No reply needed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/05
Amen  rsdoyle@... | 02/04/05
Software patents: show me one that is non-obvious  hipparchus2000 | 02/02/05
I don't like Software-only patents  DickCaro | 02/04/05
Second that and think it should extend to ALL patents.  njohnson@... | 02/04/05
"too expensive and time consuming" yes I agree, the onus should be on PTO  hipparchus2001 | 02/04/05
Yes!! Software Patents now restarted... from scratch!  Root User | 02/02/05
Excellent...  seal101 | 02/02/05
Wow, now something they trash  FilledOut | 02/03/05
Wineos trash alcohol taxes!  TechType | 02/03/05
Open source folks do not understand Real Inventions  john_davis747@... | 02/03/05
just a thought  rldc1_2000@... | 02/04/05
Patents aren't the problem  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 02/04/05
Open source must get it's own patents  aurizon | 02/04/05
What if you did invent some new ideas which surpass IBM/Microsoft?  LaurentChen@... | 02/04/05
Software is like music  NelsonVe | 02/04/05
software patens,bad idea  towells | 02/04/05
Aggressive patents will drive services off-shore  yusoshi | 02/04/05
Either deliver the product or release the patent.......  jerryh@... | 02/04/05
Software patents  erniecicco | 02/04/05
Constitutional Right?  rsdoyle@... | 02/04/05
Article One, Section 8  hjleevta | 02/05/05
Its crazy to think  hdwilkins | 02/04/05
software patents  lb_z | 02/04/05
Making a living  Racketdog | 02/04/05
Doesn't source code become public w/patents?  gsparksjr@... | 02/04/05
Nope  osreinstall | 02/04/05
Yes they are objects of greed not innovation  Winfan | 02/04/05
Software should be copyrighted, period.  jbobst | 02/04/05
Copyright software  rsdoyle@... | 02/04/05
software patents waste money and time  lccornwell | 02/04/05
Bugger patents  scotasys | 02/04/05
Re: Bugger patents  ReFoRMaT | 02/05/05
some thoughts to chew on  rldc1_2000@... | 02/04/05
Patents are supposed to be for original work  b2miller@... | 02/04/05
Billy & Co. can 'lawyer up'...  ReFoRMaT | 02/05/05
Only the "well to do" Linux crowd hate Patends  John Zern | 02/05/05
A better alternative  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/05
Put this on a website - it'll get buried when new articles come (nt)  CobraA1 | 02/06/05
initial thoughts  CobraA1 | 02/06/05
Trashing Software Patents  Evisscerator | 02/06/05

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