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Yes, great comment, many are using Excel features for final data analysis
I think that companies should be offering better data analysis tools to extract and analyze data so these extraction and analysis templates can be stored centrally for others to access and use. The problem with using Excel is that each user is often developing and using their own macros etc, to generate reports. When that employee quits, all of this is lost. Sure you could spend months going through the users hard drive and trying to figure out how to make his/her macros work, but it would probably be easier to start over.

Well, that said, many employees are not given the tools that they need and are forced to use Excel for things it is not suited. The worst thing is that you create islands of data analysis and automation that people do not share. This same sort of thing will happen with OpenOffice as well.
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Don't take the bait, stay away from office.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Nonsense  Loverock Davidson | 12/21/04
MS is working overtime to add things that will lock you in.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Check out the new features on OpenOffice 2 preview:  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Another thing, stay away from VC++ and all of MS dev tools.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
hey  johnnyu | 12/21/04
True, VC++ is good, just now cross platform  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
I agree  johnnyu | 12/21/04
Sorry  Loverock Davidson | 12/21/04
Still running NT 4, eh, Lovey, ...  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Nope, 2000  Loverock Davidson | 12/21/04
So, you're happy being insecure, according to MS?  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Perfectly happy  Loverock Davidson | 12/21/04
Ah, yes, "the simple happiness of ...  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Well, MS is desperate for force upgrades to XP.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
There is no forcing  Loverock Davidson | 12/21/04
True, no forcing, but lots of lock-in.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
... unless you want to be SECURE, Lovey.  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Oo! Just thought of something, Loverock!  Judas I. | 12/21/04
I'm with Loverock  seosamh_z | 12/21/04
OK, Joe, just so you know, lookee here:  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Sorry, but you are missing it completely.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Oh, Microsoft office is the only way to do office automation???  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Having problems reading?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Again: you do NOT need MS Office to do office automation.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Again, ALL automation schema's "lock in" the user.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Yes, and one locks you into more than just the automation schema.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
I see your mistake.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
It doesn't all have to be open source. Cross platfor is desirable though.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
What the heck has Apachie to do with Office Suites?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
You were insulting open source in general, Apach is one example of high . .  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
You are wasting your breath on a zealot. (NT)  NonZealot | 12/21/04
But with MS Office you double locked in  voska | 12/21/04
Does this bug anybody else:  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Yes, this is very poor design, and will cause problems.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Hmmm  Confused by religion | 12/21/04
Using MS Office to automate your office??? You deserve what you get.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Not about word  johnnyu | 12/21/04
Yes, great comment, many are using Excel features for final data analysis  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
I guess you never heard of sharepoint. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Yes, more lock-in junk that does not belong in an office suite.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Huh? You don't get "locked in" with Adobe?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Not like MS lock-in where t you have have to use all things Microsoft.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Absolutely  johnnyu | 12/21/04
And, OpenOffice will not solve this problem.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Your ignorance on the subject is showing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
No, just one of the ways. Try arguing your point, if you have one.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
You ae right, you get great ROI, ease of use, compatibility, etc.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
ROI?? Lose your bargaining power? Locked into multi-million contracts?  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
This coinversation is going no where...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
Yeah, so delete FireFox off your box, Axey. (nt)  Judas I. | 12/21/04
You are what he was talking about  NonZealot | 12/21/04
Ok, try to argue your point. Or are you just trying to disrupt.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
Ok, for starters...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
What I am arguing is that an all MS solution is bad for you pocketbook.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
So you are saying you have no idea how it works.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
No, I am saying my way is NOT the only way. But avoid lock-in.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
No, your saying use a tool that doesn't work.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/21/04
I am saying avoid an all Microsoft solution. Avoid lock-in where possible.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
What automation are you talking about?  voska | 12/22/04
Employees automate all kinds of things with Spreadsheets.  DonnieBoy | 12/22/04
When two zealots argue  voska | 12/22/04
I really can not argue with what you said, but, avoid lock-in.  DonnieBoy | 12/22/04
ROI?? Lose your bargaining power? Locked into multi-million contracts?  hpywndrer@... | 12/21/04
Man, you like bailing wire and duct tape solutions use MS Office.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
And yet...  rapson | 12/22/04
Yes, using OpenOffice in the same way would be bad.  DonnieBoy | 12/22/04
Yeah, I find it really "compelling" that ...  Judas I. | 12/21/04
Internal Microsoft codename: Crackhouse  Xunil_Sierutuf | 12/21/04
Terrific.  Judas I. | 12/21/04
So many  michael-t | 12/21/04
Man, so true, the bailing wire and duct tape only go so far.  DonnieBoy | 12/21/04
I've been laughing...  Omch'Ar | 12/21/04
psst . . . over here, little boy . . . the first hit's free . . . (nt)  Plain Logic | 12/21/04
Sounds like more Microsoft is the devil stuff...  jim.bassett@... | 12/23/04

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