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It's broke... WE need to fix it... not Novell or Sun.
There is a lot to be said for a single directory service project for management. If the Linux world (which Sun and Novell are just a part.. not the all powerful OZ) is to match Active Directory functionality, they need to attack it head on, in dedicated open source projects, and get it done. I would love to see it. (I'll be nice and simply say Kerberos rocks already...great job..now that ITAR is allowing us, lets get back to one project! GO MIT! Linux already rules over Microsoft their..their Kerberos is poor)

I think few realize what an absolute mess OpenLDAP is. Go look at samba.org and see what's on the plate to match AD fuctionality. They are writing their own LDAP service because the OpenLDAP project is so BUSTED! Let's either gut the thing and start over, or get some other project promoted.

As for the desktop/server config feeding off of LDAP, GOOD LUCK! Suse needs to just let the YAST thing go and Redhat needs to stop writing stupid little applets (enough with the python already!)that change constantly. Both are wrong.
Maybe Sun or Novell can halt the madness, get behind a singel LDAP setup (hey.. Novell is good at that... or at least better than Sun!) and hammer out a common Gnome Enterprise Control Panel that will work everywhere! It has to be Enterprise.. no "local" machine here. That way you only need to scale the tool. Learn from Microsoft mistakes on that one. Configuration belongs to the network, not the machine ALWAYS! Even if the network is 127.0.0.1..it belongs to the network. Lead...we will follow!

David... go ask them to list what open source projects they are heading, supporting for management! I did not see any specifics at all about what they are doing to promote general Linux (make Solaris fit too!) well being. That's how you win. It is community, not commerical that leads adoption in this world. Didn't Sun and Novell learn anything in the server wars? Sun and Novell didn't cause the tide (Sun lost.. so I guess the answer for them is they did not learn!) on the small to mid-range server. Apache,Samba,PHP,MySQL,OpenSSL, and Perl did. You don't hear us fighting about which vendors MySQL or Samba to implement. It EVERYONE'S or we all parish.
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