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Jeff is correct!
MS has peaked in the desktop market and has not really produced a server software that is as robust as the UNIX environment. I see a lot of movement towards getting away from MS. Many countries are starting to use LINUX for their desktop environment as well as their server environment.

You can see the evidence that MS has topped out on the desktop because they started charging an annual maintenance fee for XP.

I personally moved from Internet Exploder to Mozilla and haven't looked back. It is a superior product. Faster and a lot less problems opening web pages.

While I am fairly new to Linux, it seems to me to be a superior operating system to anything I have used from MS. Yea - there are a few problems getting some of the OSS packages to run properly, but once you do, they run better. Everything seems to be a lot more stable.

I think there are a lot of developers like myself who are putting together packages based on the LINUX OS and are not really interested in subjecting their clients to an additional XX$ for more users or any other licenses. Sure, you and I can make a few extra bucks selling more licenses, but I have found that I get a lot more referrals when I install a package that is flexible enough to grow with my customer instead of that customer having to pay extra everytime they want to add a user or make some sort of change.
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Well duh? Did anyone think Sun was going to hand  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Does it matter?  IT_User | 12/02/04
Sun Hardware  htotten | 12/02/04
Sounds sort of like...  IT_User | 12/02/04
Sun hardware doesn't need to run Solaris  balsover | 12/03/04
Toss MS in and your right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Face it: M$ has nowhere to go but down!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
Jeff, I am being honest here, you don't really believe that do you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Jeff is correct!  djc1309@... | 12/04/04
Nothing factual in your post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/04/04
You are a die hard aren't you?  djc1309@... | 12/04/04
That makes me giggle.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
Never suggested anything else. Are you concerned?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Don't get in a tizzy. He's just marveling at your shillhood.  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
sigh, You still have learned nothing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Concern and giggling are antithetical...  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
So is No_Ax becoming Mike Cox  shallow_diver | 12/03/04
You must be new...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Is that so No Ax?  ken47b@... | 12/03/04
Yes it is true. Learn to pay attention. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Re: That makes me giggle.  richdave | 12/04/04
And your point is???  AmusedAtItAll | 12/02/04
Booyah!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/03/04
Yes! Good move Sun! Best for Linux.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
You hit the nail right on the noggin  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
An excellent point John. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
How is this a good move for Sun?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Anton, you always ask the tough questions.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
New sales outside the US would be a goal.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sorry, I'm not privy to Sun's plans.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Who is?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Is that in fact true?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
A good reason NOT to open source Solaris.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
You just identified the big *IF*.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Just a thought here  voska | 12/03/04
May be a nuanced plan is afoot?  quietLee | 12/03/04
Too subtle to succeed.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sun's self-interest.  John Le'Brecage | 12/03/04
I don't really like the GPL anyways  CobraA1 | 12/02/04
But hey...  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
Open Source isn't always better, though  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
You can link the two. There are exceptions.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
John, you point out something important...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
A point in support.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Correct, and the FUD is a very real thing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
What rubbish!!  Jiim_z | 12/05/04
Not always an option  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
Toss this to the wind...  John Le'Brecage | 12/05/04
Clarify what you mean.  AmusedAtItAll | 12/02/04
heh, we keep forgetting section 2b!  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
No surprises here ...  George Mitchell | 12/02/04
Does Sun have the right  Roger Ramjet | 12/03/04
BSD is not relavant here ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
Good move for Sun ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
What is Sun's goal?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sun's goal is to ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
Does "complete user control of the code"...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
I think it does  voska | 12/03/04
Is "as easy as Linux..." a reason to buy Solaris?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
If it allows interop with Windows it does.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Another good point  voska | 12/03/04
Won't take that long, I'll say a year from now.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Seem to me you pointed out the Bunk factor  voska | 12/03/04
Linus ix Unix, too.  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
That's why there are only two "real" Linuxes...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Depth limit?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Yes, depth goes beyond ZDNet's limit.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes for commercial use, yes.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
You do realize that Windows is POSIX compliant too right?  voska | 12/03/04
Mixed anticipations.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Sun: "We'll damage ourselves in hopes"...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Ah, but if Sun can...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
IBM and Linux  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
What damage?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
All pain, no gain.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Shares in Solaris?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Never said shares in Solaris.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Yes to both!  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
If Sun is just chasing a buzzword...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Increased sales is increased sales...  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
If being incompetent were only illegal...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Oh please!  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
What have they done lately?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
"Too expensive" is too old.  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Is Sun part of a plot to kill Linux?  Flash00 | 12/03/04
It is a good move for Sun  kokuryu | 12/03/04
Witness The Second Coming Of The Balkanization Of Unix  lbattis@... | 12/03/04
But there is really nothing new here ...  George Mitchell | 12/03/04
A few observations  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Trying to salvage a marginalized OS  mwiley_z | 12/03/04
Too little, too late I suspect!  Jiim_z | 12/05/04
good move for Solaris  segurajohn@... | 12/03/04
I hate using Solaris. can open-source change that?  gorbehnare | 12/04/04
I think not. Linux is here to stay and grow!  flavio.becker | 12/04/04

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