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Sun's self-interest.
Quite simply, this is a good move for Sun, because they have the benefits of having an open source product, but don't need to be concerned about being co-opted. Solaris has, as a guess, a several million line codebase. Sun understands it better than anyone and always will. They'll still be the prime masters of Solaris. That fact, plus the license, plus the ability to maintain patents will keep a large co-competitor from emerging in the hoped-for emergent Solaris marketplace.

You're concerned about money though not ability to control? As is well known, money is earned primarily by improved efficiency and obtaining new customers. Sun is the only provider of Solaris to Sparc and probably always will be as they sell the OS with the architecture. To expand the reach of Solaris, though; they need to branch out to more architectures.

Sun has only able to port Solaris to two architectures previously: Sparc and X86. By contrast Linux has been ported to nearly 30 architectures, as has BSD. The ports are external to Sun, and as they won't require Sun's permission - legal expenses should be minimized. If someone needs Solaris on, say, ARM; they can port it.

What does Sun reap from this opennes to port? Since the contributions do become equally Sun's product under the considered license: Sun reaps a new product to sell, but at a near-zero development cost. I'd call that much improved efficiency - new customers, near zero expense.

Further consider that Sun's machines support a limited peripheral hardware set? Some markets that developers might wish Sun to enter, which require hardware that Sun doesn't support, would represent a significant expense to Sun to support. By opening the source, Sun defers the driver development expense to the outside developer, who can then open that market to Solaris at little expense to Sun. Again, a very efficient process and a profitable one for Sun.

So, for Sun, oopening the source is largely about opening new markets for Solaris at little or no expense and defering costs. Sun also sells application that run atop Solaris and the more Solaris markets are open; the more of those tools will be sold? The more markets Sun can enter without retooling, the more potential sales of support down the road?

These are but two examples of how OSS release of Solaris is of benefit to Sun. There are undoubtedly others. Both of these save money through potentially increased development efficiency. Both can potentially expand Solaris reach. Both can potentially make Sun money by increasing sales at low expense to Sun.

That word "potentially" gives you pause does it not. Well, as the libertarians out there will tell you: to the risk taker should go the spoils. Opening the Solaris source is a risk, but perhaps no more risky than doing nothing at all.

The alternative is too awful for Sun to contemplate. New Solaris installation numbers are being steamrolled by new GNU/Linux installation numbers. Unless Sun can gain for themselves some of the cache of Linux; they are doomed to eventual irrelevancy in the OS market: maybe not now, maybe not for thirty years, but eventually. Opening Solaris is about saving Sun's marketshare by gaining cache.

Any further questions, =Anton=?
Posted by: John Le'Brecage   Posted on: 12/03/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Well duh? Did anyone think Sun was going to hand  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Does it matter?  IT_User | 12/02/04
Sun Hardware  htotten | 12/02/04
Sounds sort of like...  IT_User | 12/02/04
Sun hardware doesn't need to run Solaris  balsover | 12/03/04
Toss MS in and your right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Face it: M$ has nowhere to go but down!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
Jeff, I am being honest here, you don't really believe that do you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Jeff is correct!  djc1309@... | 12/04/04
Nothing factual in your post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/04/04
You are a die hard aren't you?  djc1309@... | 12/04/04
That makes me giggle.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
Never suggested anything else. Are you concerned?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/02/04
Don't get in a tizzy. He's just marveling at your shillhood.  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
sigh, You still have learned nothing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Concern and giggling are antithetical...  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
So is No_Ax becoming Mike Cox  shallow_diver | 12/03/04
You must be new...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Is that so No Ax?  ken47b@... | 12/03/04
Yes it is true. Learn to pay attention. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Re: That makes me giggle.  richdave | 12/04/04
And your point is???  AmusedAtItAll | 12/02/04
Booyah!  Jeff Spicoli | 12/03/04
Yes! Good move Sun! Best for Linux.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
You hit the nail right on the noggin  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
An excellent point John. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
How is this a good move for Sun?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Anton, you always ask the tough questions.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
New sales outside the US would be a goal.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sorry, I'm not privy to Sun's plans.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Who is?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Is that in fact true?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
A good reason NOT to open source Solaris.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
You just identified the big *IF*.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Just a thought here  voska | 12/03/04
May be a nuanced plan is afoot?  quietLee | 12/03/04
Too subtle to succeed.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sun's self-interest.  John Le'Brecage | 12/03/04
I don't really like the GPL anyways  CobraA1 | 12/02/04
But hey...  Jeff Spicoli | 12/02/04
Open Source isn't always better, though  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
You can link the two. There are exceptions.  John Le'Brecage | 12/02/04
John, you point out something important...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
A point in support.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Correct, and the FUD is a very real thing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
What rubbish!!  Jiim_z | 12/05/04
Not always an option  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
Toss this to the wind...  John Le'Brecage | 12/05/04
Clarify what you mean.  AmusedAtItAll | 12/02/04
heh, we keep forgetting section 2b!  CobraA1 | 12/03/04
No surprises here ...  George Mitchell | 12/02/04
Does Sun have the right  Roger Ramjet | 12/03/04
BSD is not relavant here ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
Good move for Sun ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
What is Sun's goal?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Sun's goal is to ...  mwagner@... | 12/03/04
Does "complete user control of the code"...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
I think it does  voska | 12/03/04
Is "as easy as Linux..." a reason to buy Solaris?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
If it allows interop with Windows it does.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Another good point  voska | 12/03/04
Won't take that long, I'll say a year from now.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Seem to me you pointed out the Bunk factor  voska | 12/03/04
Linus ix Unix, too.  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
That's why there are only two "real" Linuxes...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Depth limit?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Yes, depth goes beyond ZDNet's limit.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes for commercial use, yes.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
You do realize that Windows is POSIX compliant too right?  voska | 12/03/04
Mixed anticipations.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
Sun: "We'll damage ourselves in hopes"...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Ah, but if Sun can...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/03/04
IBM and Linux  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
What damage?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
All pain, no gain.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Shares in Solaris?  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Never said shares in Solaris.  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Yes to both!  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
If Sun is just chasing a buzzword...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Increased sales is increased sales...  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
If being incompetent were only illegal...  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
Oh please!  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
What have they done lately?  Anton Philidor | 12/03/04
"Too expensive" is too old.  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Is Sun part of a plot to kill Linux?  Flash00 | 12/03/04
It is a good move for Sun  kokuryu | 12/03/04
Witness The Second Coming Of The Balkanization Of Unix  lbattis@... | 12/03/04
But there is really nothing new here ...  George Mitchell | 12/03/04
A few observations  lycanthrope1 | 12/03/04
Trying to salvage a marginalized OS  mwiley_z | 12/03/04
Too little, too late I suspect!  Jiim_z | 12/05/04
good move for Solaris  segurajohn@... | 12/03/04
I hate using Solaris. can open-source change that?  gorbehnare | 12/04/04
I think not. Linux is here to stay and grow!  flavio.becker | 12/04/04

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