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Why would they?
If I had an established company I'd not be complaining. I mean this will illimnate some upstart from competing with me. Sure it's not right but hey I definitely wouldn't be complaining about a bad law that happens to benifit me.
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Torvalds is right!  Tim Patterson | 11/23/04
Already ... I can hear ...  Judas I. | 11/23/04
Maybe not  SC-man | 11/23/04
I'm Suing All Major University Computer Departments  itanalyst | 11/23/04
Too late  tic swayback | 11/23/04
you've got to be joking...  wimbo_z | 11/24/04
Tim, there are more patent holders than just large corps.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Then you should understand Bit  Tim Patterson | 11/23/04
I understand you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
You are comparing apples and oranges...  avilensk1966@... | 11/23/04
Simply put, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Once again, apples and oranges...  avilensk1966@... | 11/23/04
Still wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
If what you said is true  avilensk1966@... | 11/23/04
All I can say is it has worked for two decades.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Eolas was not alone  tic swayback | 11/23/04
Eolas sued, sure. But did they win?  cbiltcliffe@... | 12/02/04
You are comparing apples and oranges...  avilensk1966@... | 11/23/04
bitty, lying won't make your weak position any stronger.  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Ax - you got that right  nextbend | 12/02/04
Could the USA fall behind  jsjag1 | 12/02/04
Soon US IT will be like US car makers in the 80s  Jeff Spicoli | 11/23/04
Maybe in your world, but not in mine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
I don't know about that  voska | 11/23/04
Then I better get some more patents to protect myself.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
U.S. Patents?  IT_User | 11/24/04
Axey, LOL, "they protect little guys like me."  Judas I. | 11/23/04
I suppose "little" is different for everyone.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
"One of our developers?" Gee, Axey, you are HUGE ...  Judas I. | 11/23/04
Not rally, total employment at both companies..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Yer right, Axey, yer not huge ...  Judas I. | 11/23/04
what patents do you own?  wimbo_z | 11/24/04
A couple of questions....  boomslang_z | 12/02/04
The danger of software patents  Henk de Boer | 12/02/04
What about WTO?  mhavu | 12/02/04
Neverending software-patent-lawsuits or screw lawyers and let?s work? (NT)  Vily Clay | 11/23/04
Gee, why would open source want no patents??  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Not just Open Source Bit...  Tim Patterson | 11/23/04
Tim, what software have you patented or copyrighted?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
And you?  Joe Blow_z | 11/23/04
You bet...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Here is bitty's list  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
People with software patents have no basis  voska | 11/23/04
Surgons shouldn't make medical decisions either.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
I've done all of the above  IT_User | 11/23/04
True  rkadowns | 11/23/04
I know of ZERO for-profit compaines complaining.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Why would they?  voska | 11/23/04
They wouldn't and that's the point. Only open source is crying.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Patently false!!  IT_User | 11/24/04
This has nothing to do with copying  voska | 11/23/04
Explain that!!!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Same way the Oil industry destoryed people in the 60s  voska | 11/23/04
Forget this part  voska | 11/23/04
Someone has been watching WAY TOO MUCH TV.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Can't rebut my argument? Guess I'm right then  voska | 11/23/04
Rebut an urban myth? Go ahead...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Are you that absent minded?  voska | 11/23/04
Are you lost, we are talking about SOFTWARE patents.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Do you just not get it?  voska | 11/23/04
A Conflict of Interest!  ken47b@... | 12/02/04
Unintentional copying, too.  Anton Philidor | 11/23/04
You point out Trovalds two faces!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Janus Torvalds  Anton Philidor | 11/23/04
ROFL... (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Now thats entertainment..  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Nice distortion  IT_User | 11/24/04
Huh?  IT_User | 11/23/04
Open source's problem, not HP's  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Definition problem  IT_User | 11/24/04
Unintentional copying?  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Generalization  rapson | 11/24/04
You have identified a real issue.  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
How doth I copy thee? Let me count the ways.  Joel R | 12/02/04
Depends what you mean by copying  Michael Kelly | 11/23/04
You got it half right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
You got it half right too  Michael Kelly | 11/23/04
bitty, you are never right  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Oops.  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
Actually,  Taz_z | 11/23/04
You're beyond help, bitty  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Not in favor of patents AND not in favor of copying  thebhgg | 12/02/04
A better approach for Open Source  frankly0 | 12/02/04
explain how COPYING anyone is innovative...  Tavison | 12/02/04
This is interesting in light of the proposed new GPL.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
The old one has already been tested in court.  B.O.F.H. | 11/23/04
Yup, and it failed to give them protection from patents.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
You are an interesting critter?  B.O.F.H. | 11/23/04
And you are a confused one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
It's the laws that say you are wrong.  B.O.F.H. | 11/23/04
And you are just wrong.  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
Nothing interesting here ...  George Mitchell | 11/23/04
Why Doesn't OSS Proponents Elicit Help From, ISVs & Programmers In General?  P. Douglas | 11/23/04
What patented/copyrighted software are you contributing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
IP Patents Could Violate The First Amendment  P. Douglas | 11/23/04
I suggest a short class in Constitutional law.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
I Suggest You Take One Before Me  P. Douglas | 11/23/04
Tell you what, ask a judge and see wqho he agrees with.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Not The First To Believe Software Patents Are Unconstitutional  P. Douglas | 11/23/04
And some believe in the easter bunny. So what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Come on No_Ax  voska | 11/23/04
You must need new glasses.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
How's this, and I just took a small sample.  voska | 11/23/04
Software Patents Still Unsupported By Constitution To Me  P. Douglas | 11/23/04
vosska, I have rubted your carberator because I DON"T CARE.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Doesn't matter what they mean to you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Tell you what, ask a judge and see who he agrees with.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Sorry for the double post. FIX YOUR LINKS ZDNet.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Constitution (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8)  B.O.F.H. | 11/23/04
Which would seem to mean ...  George Mitchell | 11/23/04
Intellectual property  jsjag1 | 11/23/04
Intellectual Property  ttocsmij | 11/30/04
IP Rights  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
Maybe somebody could help me out with this one ...  worknman | 11/23/04
EXACTLY! Copying is NOT innovation.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Microsoft  Joe Blow_z | 11/23/04
Not my problem and i don't care.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
No, Microsoft wouldn't exist if Software patents existed in 80s and 90s  voska | 11/23/04
And once more, not my problem and I don't care.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Then you should care  voska | 11/23/04
Tell you what, you go worry about MS, ok?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Janus bitty  AmusedAtItAll | 11/24/04
I will go along with that to a point AX  ken47b@... | 12/02/04
How about 3, and that is just the tip  Taz_z | 11/23/04
Silly argument. Let's see, all men should be put to death...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Very insightful, NOT  Taz_z | 11/23/04
Ok, let me explain it S L O W L Y for you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Stay on topic Patrick Starfish  Taz_z | 11/23/04
Take your own advice...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Interesting argument, eventually.  Anton Philidor | 11/23/04
I don't know, maybe it has to do with tangible vs intangible  Taz_z | 11/23/04
All machines based upon the basics.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
And your point is ...  Taz_z | 11/23/04
That using your logig, nothing can be patented.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
And using your "logig", everything can be patented  Taz_z | 11/23/04
See, I knew you would catch on.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
Okay, I got one.... no two  el1jones | 11/23/04
Well, you got one rthing right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
There are 2 possible companies related to streaming and kiosks  B.O.F.H. | 11/23/04
With real patents  lengua99 | 12/02/04
yes, but what happened ?  vladsim | 12/28/04
Let's flip the question  IT_User | 11/23/04
Patents making for poorer quality software.  Tavison | 12/02/04
Torvalds trashes EU patent proposal  Loverock Davidson | 11/23/04
And what makes you think  avilensk1966@... | 11/23/04
Well said. (NT)  James T. Kirk | 11/23/04
THe EU has been issuing software patents for years.  Anton Philidor | 11/23/04
That's a common argument but it doesn't fly...  Root User | 11/23/04
Ahm... Notice that big shadow you're standing in? Look up.  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Software patents are *not* being issued by the EU  IT_User | 11/24/04
Absolutely fallacious!  IT_User | 11/24/04
Emphasis unintended  IT_User | 11/24/04
The glory of patents.  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Glory?  htotten | 11/24/04
Patents as a cost of doing business  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
The extension doesn't work  IT_User | 11/24/04
The software industry has matured.  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Once again  IT_User | 11/24/04
Practically speaking.  Anton Philidor | 11/24/04
Absent evidence, no  IT_User | 11/24/04
Why the sudden terror on EU patents. It's the GPL.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Oops  rapson | 11/23/04
My bad, it won't happen again. Sorry...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
How about "Entropy from cold facts"?  Anton Philidor | 11/23/04
The Cold Water Rule?  rapson | 11/23/04
"clod water"??  rapson | 11/23/04
Anton, I see two posts no one wants to touch.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Aha!  Jeff Spicoli | 11/23/04
Never said they didn't  rapson | 11/23/04
Whoa!  IT_User | 11/24/04
Agreed.  htotten | 11/24/04
I Don't Agree  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
Linus makes very good points  Root User | 11/23/04
Ooops, typing foible  Root User | 11/23/04
Injecting facts?  IT_User | 11/24/04
the anti-patent community  htotten | 11/24/04
Foundering Fathers  auntigrav | 12/02/04
What would Ayn Rand say?  Schnazola | 12/02/04
Fundamentally Wrong  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
Fundamentally Wrong How Exactly?  Schnazola | 12/02/04
Misconceptions  M.Fridholm | 12/03/04
Yes, what would Ayn Rand say?  M.Fridholm | 12/04/04
Patents not justified.  none none | 11/23/04
I think you have it completely backward.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Hey AX  htotten | 11/23/04
Hey htotten..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Not at all  htotten | 11/23/04
And you refused to answer one of my questions.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
Protects Nothing?  htotten | 11/24/04
No_Ax, about your Patented method.  rhammock | 12/02/04
That's a good question...  Root User | 11/23/04
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
You can say UNIX license right?  htotten | 11/23/04
Are you trying to suggest that...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
No but...  htotten | 11/24/04
Re: Not Really  Root User | 11/23/04
You have it backwards again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
No, I have it the right way.  Root User | 11/24/04
Patent Lack of Effect  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
I think you have it completely backward.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
No, he has it completely right  IT_User | 11/24/04
Aboslutely correct....  htotten | 11/23/04
2 Questions- What WOULD make a good patent... what's with all the replies..  el1jones | 11/23/04
As Mr Torvalds says  htotten | 11/23/04
I agree... no software patents...  el1jones | 11/23/04
Two answers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/04
Question #2 ... Answered  el1jones | 11/23/04
But the EU is always right in what they do  FilledOut | 11/24/04
If the EU is stupid enough by approving this proposal, it will mean ...  systemcleaner | 11/24/04
Blah, blah, blah...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
well usa is exellent on making choise  toxicfreak | 12/02/04
I dont think so read this article...  crocd | 11/24/04
And what has that to do with patents?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
Right on.  htotten | 11/24/04
Why software patents are bogus ...  George Mitchell | 11/24/04
Said the man without any.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/24/04
He's a stakeholder  IT_User | 11/24/04
Ax believes in the Golden Rule ...  George Mitchell | 11/24/04
This from someone who does not (and probubly never has) written code.  B.O.F.H. | 11/24/04
Feelings?  CobraA1 | 11/25/04
Okay, Here Goes  Stephen Wheeler | 12/02/04
Here, Here  htotten | 11/24/04
EU patent proposal  andreito | 11/24/04
Current IPR belongs in the middle ages  Falconer_z | 12/02/04
Patent lifetime  trm1945 | 12/02/04
Patents are a mixed bag  JamesFaber@... | 12/02/04
Patents are now used as standing for future suits  jsjag1 | 12/02/04
Guilty until proven innocent?  booknut | 12/02/04
You should not be able to patent  rhammock | 12/02/04
Patents are not for small guys  aorusso | 12/02/04
That depends!  tsuru | 12/02/04
wrong - you can do it for $100  daver_z | 12/02/04
And you have lost the right to patent in Europe.  Tavison | 12/03/04
Patents only protect those who can afford lawyers  mike.green@... | 12/02/04
And patents can destroy others.  johnlb2002 | 12/02/04
MONOPOLY and INOVATION  sjworth@... | 12/02/04
copyrights, trademarks and patents  cpayne@... | 12/02/04
Software & Hardware Patents are Different  solardan | 12/02/04
Change patent law?  johnlb2002 | 12/02/04
Patent Law  cpayne@... | 12/02/04
A double edged sword  db2xpert | 12/02/04
My own view  kokuryu | 12/02/04
god its funny  toxicfreak | 12/02/04
What patents should be awarded for!  ehbeitz@... | 12/02/04
I want to patent a piece of code so you pay me  joseph1942 | 12/02/04
software patents  aif@... | 12/02/04
Patents are important.  atlascott | 12/02/04
Right...  M.Fridholm | 12/03/04
Bass ackwards  M.Fridholm | 12/02/04
This post misplaced  M.Fridholm | 12/04/04
What stifles innovation is when companies patent the Obvious  daver_z | 12/02/04
Patent Protection  prenaud@... | 12/02/04
Software Patents Plusses and Minuses  master__joe@... | 12/02/04
copyrite longevity  jpurcell | 12/02/04
This will really stick up the works  jfmiii | 12/02/04
patents  lpdisadog | 12/02/04
When you enjoy the benefits of great inventions  hnwu | 12/02/04
Patents vs Copyright non event  blind1 | 12/02/04
True, true, true  Richie_z | 12/03/04
If Wilbur & Orville couldn't get a patent, you would be riding a donkey.  watunda | 12/03/04
Actually, they lost most of thier patent protection.  Tavison | 12/03/04
Software patents  jonjon1946@... | 12/03/04
Software patents must not be legalized.  Tom W_z | 12/03/04

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