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This is pure hogwash, bitty: >>>Regardless of what may be added to Windows, it must still be able to run all the legacy software users have.<<<

The main gripe I hear about the forced "upgrades" (a term I use quite liberally. This is MS), is the fact that people have to invest in all their software again.

Is it even possible for you to respond with a real answer just once instead of the usual MS FUD party line?; Posted by: Troll-Catcher Posted on: 11/21/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Please help rkadowns | 11/19/04

They want to scare you into getting Lockhorn.. Jeff Spicoli | 11/19/04

Ahh rkadowns | 11/19/04

Have you seen what it can do? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

Please, educate us Linux User 147560 | 11/19/04

Hey, if your happy with the limitations, kewl. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

The irony is that Linux User 147560 | 11/19/04

Really, I guess that's why people hate GUI's huh? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

I seem to recall... PA-ITGuy | 11/19/04

And how is "Avalon" supposed to help us gamers? DigitalKid | 11/22/04

Gee I'm looking forward to it;-) Richard Flude | 11/19/04

He doesn't need to. chiwawa | 11/19/04

Aw the voive of experiance and reason. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

And the unmistakeble noise of utter cluelessness. chiwawa | 11/19/04

But I try not to judge you for it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

Message has been deleted. chiwawa | 11/20/04

Hmm, you may be right and no one listens to you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

Can't win on merit? Start insulting. Usual bitty FUD Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

Stated? Gee, you don't know how threads work? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Can you describe some things for us that it can do? Jeff Spicoli | 11/19/04

I can do better than that. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

better looking windows and a possibly improved API hipparchus2000 | 11/20/04

And the answer is, legacy... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

apart from all the win98 kids games I had for my kids that didn't work hipparchus2000 | 11/21/04

And I think overuse of C++ hipparchus2000 | 11/21/04

This is pure hogwash, bitty Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

Here's what I got. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/21/04

Sucks to be you I guess. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Works for me too rapson | 11/22/04

Have you? Cardinal_Bill | 11/19/04

Let's consider that. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

you did not answer the question JasonL31 | 11/21/04

Sorry, I didn't think you were serious, No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

You're still dancing. Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

Try again Troll... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Just what we need. MORE BLOAT!! jjon2121 | 11/19/04

Complete revamp of windowing subsystem on Longhorn PB_z | 11/19/04

Microsucks can have a glimpse at THIS... realitycheck101 | 11/19/04

Oops, I thought you were gong to show us a brain. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

He was going to... Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

I hope when Microsoft is done with Avalon chiwawa | 11/19/04

Sigh, and I had hoped... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

Its a Firefox plug-in chiwawa | 11/20/04

An apology to a liar. Don't hold your breath. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

Not like you planned on buying any MS prods FilledOut | 11/19/04

The sceptic in me says stay away. jheine | 11/19/04

Only really for developers. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

Actually, he wasn't commenting on the hardware. Zogg | 11/19/04

Demands placed on the hardware gone up? swoopee | 11/20/04

Basically.. d_jedi | 11/20/04

more vapourware. How about a mock up concept video hipparchus2000 | 11/19/04

Avalon vVideos from over a year ago... PB_z | 11/19/04

in that case poor journalism why not link to the website from the article. hipparchus2000 | 11/20/04

Poor journalism goes without saying PB_z | 11/20/04

Microsoft now copies Mozilla XUL. B.O.F.H. | 11/19/04

They wanted to lock consumers out of older OSes? CobraA1 | 11/19/04

Huh? Your old apps wprk just fine. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

we know your are not that dumb JasonL31 | 11/20/04

Yes you are... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Try reading my post next time - I wasn't talking about old apps! CobraA1 | 11/21/04

I see, you want everything for nothing. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Nah, I just want new apps to work CobraA1 | 11/22/04

What a crock. Cardinal_Bill | 11/19/04

they're planning on not giving the OEM's enough info to write drivers Squawkbox | 11/20/04

Not at all. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

wow, did you get a inside look JasonL31 | 11/20/04

Unlike you, I can read. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/04

Ahhh...I love to test Avalon... Grayson Peddie | 11/19/04

How many more "its vaporware" idiots do we need to listen to? jimk_z | 11/19/04

OK, it's not vaporware. Cardinal_Bill | 11/19/04

So? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/20/04

That's because he was being humorous.. Patrick Jones | 11/22/04

Don't a number of companies have that too FilledOut | 11/21/04

They, as usual pj-xmesh | 11/20/04

They, as usual CodeBubba | 11/26/04

Why upgrade? mikeybrass | 11/20/04

Waiting for 'The Killer App' Zogg | 11/20/04

Killer database mikeybrass | 11/20/04

No, I doubt any such 'Killer App' would be a database either wink

Zogg | 11/21/04

No, but... Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/21/04

Why upgrade? CodeBubba | 11/26/04

More MS T&A Len Rooney | 11/20/04

I'm buying a new Sony PS/2 this christmas, with network connection hipparchus2000 | 11/20/04

If this is important to you, rkadowns | 11/20/04

guess win2k is dead as far as ms is concerned JasonL31 | 11/20/04

Win2k will be 6 years old... PB_z | 11/20/04

XP is win2k with DRM added in JasonL31 | 11/21/04

How long do you expect MS to support older OSes? d_jedi | 11/21/04

win2k is not a old OS JasonL31 | 11/21/04

by 2006, it will be.. d_jedi | 11/21/04

Until they come up with something new? Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 11/21/04

Yes.. d_jedi | 11/21/04

Until they come up with something new? CodeBubba | 11/26/04

(NT) .WOW !!! . Reminds me of the Spinning Logos of the early Java days ;-( Plain Logic | 11/20/04

cpu power has not been doubling as fast as needed JasonL31 | 11/21/04

If this is anything like Sun's Looking Glass project... Zogg | 11/21/04

Yet another michael-t | 11/22/04

Oh boy... Fairlane | 02/08/05

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