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Wow: Overall I happen to like Microsoft, but Ballmer, Steve (let's just call him BS from now on) spewed some serious FUD...at least based on this article.

I don't see how he can honestly state that Windows is more secure than Linux. That's just plain laughable.; Posted by: Blackdog_z Posted on: 11/18/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Wow Blackdog_z | 11/18/04

Big time WOW Unicornrider | 11/18/04

Steve will never live it down... msdead | 11/18/04

Yeah, they "built" it lengua99 | 11/19/04

With patents like these, who needs enemies? Jomo_z | 11/18/04

BWAHAHAHA!!! Jeff Spicoli | 11/18/04

Gates: You cannot take away my rights on your data or I?ll sue you. (NT) Vily Clay | 11/18/04

Man, I can see they will start ratcheting up the IP threats. DonnieBoy | 11/18/04

I agree... prime21 | 11/18/04

Or buy Suse product and get indemnification from Novell (NT) crocd | 11/18/04

open source? doh123 | 11/18/04

Or Suicida| | 11/18/04

Yes, people get mad at SUN arguing with Red Hat, etc, but, DonnieBoy | 11/18/04

You mean some company like SCO slartibartfast_z | 11/19/04

Brodering on extortion... Tim Patterson | 11/18/04

Oh PUL-LEASE No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Sounds like it to me Spoon Jabber | 11/18/04

Misuse... Martin Marvinski | 11/19/04

You're right Spoon Jabber | 11/19/04

Informing people of danger is not extortion. DonnieBoy | 11/18/04

Re: Brodering on extortion... richdave | 11/18/04

Shame on them jcj123 | 11/19/04

truth is.... +-Chris-+ | 11/18/04

Steve...baby...come back to us... IT_Guy_z | 11/18/04

Too many martinis... Quiet_Type | 11/20/04

Microsoft warns Asian governments of Linux lawsuits Loverock Davidson | 11/18/04

now THAT'S trolling! nice one (nt) el1jones | 11/18/04

Providing facts is trolling? (NT) Loverock Davidson | 11/18/04

Yep rapson | 11/18/04

Carl, are you being serious? Jeff Spicoli | 11/18/04

Nope rapson | 11/18/04

Did you bite once before? The King's Servant | 11/18/04

King's rapson | 11/18/04

In this case, definitely trolling Monkey_MCSE | 11/18/04

Re: ..Asian governments alterego_z | 11/18/04

Then you are a bit naive to beleive them crocd | 11/18/04

Apparently you missed the note of sarcasm. The King's Servant | 11/18/04

8.9! Spoon Jabber | 11/18/04

Ha ha ha ha ha ! endemion | 11/18/04

re: Microsoft warns Asian governments of Linux lawsuits richdave | 11/18/04

Yes I am. (NT) Loverock Davidson | 11/19/04

My advice... Martin Marvinski | 11/19/04

I think you've confused lengua99 | 11/19/04

Question is how many patents does windows Arrg | 11/18/04

Zero, unless you have proof to the contrary. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

it is proprietory thats why you antagonist! crocd | 11/18/04

And what's in your wallet? Let me see, I demand to know. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

That is an absurd argument Physco Dude | 11/18/04

See you are catching on. What's in Windows "wallet". No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Money gained from predatory business practices AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

I see you still don't get it. Physco Dude | 11/18/04

Oh contraire! htotten | 11/18/04

They had proof to the contrary. See, I am right. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Open-source Solaris violates zero patents too... prime21 | 11/18/04

Open-source Solaris fordman | 11/18/04

You probably run MS Office on your servers, too. The King's Servant | 11/18/04

Office fordman | 11/18/04

Follow the tread. The King's Servant | 11/18/04

RE: You probably run MS Office on your servers, too. Tert | 11/19/04

Solaris can run all Linux software... prime21 | 11/18/04

At least one more than Linux, actually Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/04

Maybe you should tell your master... AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04

So where is Balmer's proof? bjbrock | 11/18/04

Here you go No_Facts Richard Flude | 11/18/04

Means NOTHING gary.douglas@... | 11/19/04

Indeed Richard Flude | 11/19/04

That's what the Tobbaco industry said for years lengua99 | 11/19/04

Yeah, because the B**s***t EULA lengua99 | 11/19/04

Why say it? Because it's a smart move really. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

WTF!!!???!!! chiwawa | 11/18/04

Let me guess, you have never heard of the WTO right? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

That is another one... Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Save the homework; I posted the ref. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Thanks Anton, some folks just don't "get it". No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I get what you say but I think you're totally wrong hipparchus2000 | 11/18/04

In part I disagree hipster Spoon Jabber | 11/19/04

sources of information hipparchus2000 | 11/19/04

Thanks hipparchus Spoon Jabber | 11/19/04

In WWII injured people lengua99 | 11/19/04

human bombs in WW2 hipparchus2000 | 11/20/04

Some don't AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04

Educate yourself, then try to impress us. chiwawa | 11/18/04

Man you really are cluless. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Lack of understanding bit Tim Patterson | 11/18/04

China campaigned hard to get into the WTO Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Sure they did lengua99 | 11/19/04

So why does China want ion the WQTO so badly? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Bragging rights AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

china is THE defacto world trade organisation hipparchus2000 | 11/18/04

So they can send their stuff here with much less lengua99 | 11/19/04

The US ingnores the WTO regularly voska | 11/18/04

wto wto what ever toxicfreak | 11/18/04

China and several Asian nations are already lengua99 | 11/19/04

Unless... htotten | 11/18/04

Maybe, maybe not. It will intersting to see though. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I agree on your point more or less, but this is the purest form of FUD Physco Dude | 11/18/04

Not really.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

But you have to admit... rapson | 11/18/04

Never ! nomorems | 11/18/04

Clueless? rapson | 11/18/04

Still FUD Physco Dude | 11/18/04

Yeah, and I could say an asteroid will crash lengua99 | 11/19/04

Real possibility. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Not really... AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

5.7 AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04

Novell doesn't appear to understand this concept GregSalts | 11/18/04

As much as I hate to agree... Michael Kelly | 11/18/04

Maybe, maybe not Fred Fredrickson | 11/18/04

why does ms fear linux so? JasonL31 | 11/18/04

Really dumb plan. AmusedAtItAll | 11/18/04

You so funny, monkeyboy.... crocd | 11/18/04

Excellent strategy... Mike Cox | 11/18/04

9! crocd | 11/18/04

Needs More Sarcasm itanalyst | 11/18/04

8 CobraA1 | 11/18/04

8.25 Real World | 11/18/04

7.5 tic swayback | 11/18/04

Hey! Yen_z | 11/18/04

Too little, too late AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

8.1 The King's Servant | 11/18/04

My ex-wife wants to have your baby Mike Squawkbox | 11/18/04

Ballmer, Are You THAT Retarded?? itanalyst | 11/18/04

Your jealoucy is showing again. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

For a man that has a Harvard degree crocd | 11/18/04

And runs the worlds largest and most powerfull software company. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

which equates to Robert Mugabe being right crocd | 11/18/04

Are you still eating those sour grapes? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Not sour dont care.. Im not American. crocd | 11/18/04

If you don't care, why mention it? Spoon Jabber | 11/18/04

you still defending ms JasonL31 | 11/18/04

Largest and most powerful? tic swayback | 11/18/04

Go back and read again. *SOFTWARE COMPANY*. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I see tic swayback | 11/18/04

like Steve B has increased MS revenue so much hipparchus2000 | 11/18/04

im not sure of that AX toxicfreak | 11/18/04

JEALOUSY?? ROTFLMAO!!! YOU MUST BE KIDDING!! itanalyst | 11/19/04

Liar, liar, pants on fire! htotten | 11/18/04

What is it that every one says now a days? Laff | 11/18/04

WTO and patents Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Bzzzt! rapson | 11/18/04

ROTFLMAO No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

How about 'Spicoli's Law' ? Spoon Jabber | 11/18/04

Hmmm rapson | 11/18/04

Can you state the law, Carl? Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

I'll try rapson | 11/18/04

Adjusting the statement a bit. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Anton: Sounds good rapson | 11/18/04

Re: I'll try none none | 11/18/04

More on Europe tic swayback | 11/18/04

Makes the Belgians Europe's last best hope. Anton Philidor | 11/19/04

More news from Europe tic swayback | 11/19/04

WRONG hipparchus2000 | 11/18/04

Okay, I'll remember what you say. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Not your foreign policy post. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Anton, no need to apoligize. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

observations about attitude of UK patent office hipparchus2000 | 11/19/04

So what? You can be sued for using Windows! George Mitchell | 11/18/04

Really, care to name any such case? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

No, But Let's Name Companies Who Were THREATENED By MS For Netscape itanalyst | 11/18/04

No, that's called... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Scratching Backs Include Threatening Companies and Salaries? itanalyst | 11/18/04

You bet it is. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I think you have it a little backwards voska | 11/18/04

Either way, it's just business. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Let's see: AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Tech Diva, I've seen worse in other corps voska | 11/18/04

Oh and then there is banks voska | 11/18/04

Actually, it's called... AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Yea, but to what result? johnlb2002 | 11/19/04

No, that's called violations of anti trust laws lengua99 | 11/19/04

Do you understand civil law? voska | 11/18/04

Sure, do you understand frivolous? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I don't know about never voska | 11/18/04

Funny you should ask. Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/04

They'll happen, maybe, but I wonder about validity? CobraA1 | 11/18/04

Problem is, users notice lawsuits. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

You bet they do. Especially corporations. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

ms keeps abusing their monopoy - people notice JasonL31 | 11/18/04

Balancing Risks tic swayback | 11/18/04

If that is true, Solaris wins hands down. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

You make my point for me. thank you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

How low can you go... MacCanuck | 11/18/04

Ask the Linux crowd if you want an answer. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Come now No_Facts_to_Find... MacCanuck | 11/18/04

Try again... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Speaking of "how low can you go"... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

See another thread... MacCanuck | 11/18/04

Much better, on with the reply. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

NOW I get it! AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Oh yeah, one more Joe. nanan nana nana, can't catch me. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Trash your nic? jacarter3 | 11/18/04

gawd, yet another wanna be... Please, just go away. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

I will when you do, No_Fax jacarter3 | 11/18/04

LOL, hahahaha dave95 | 11/18/04

Make that "horde"... MacCanuck | 11/18/04

Message has been deleted. Yen_z | 11/18/04

Expand the advice, then. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

If I were Ballmer, I would stress... Yen_z | 11/18/04

He'd say: Don't call us... Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

You still don't understand. Yen_z | 11/19/04

Glum Anton Philidor | 11/19/04

Hoookkkkaaaayyyy... Yen_z | 11/19/04

You have a good point about Microsoft live help. Anton Philidor | 11/22/04

Watch your language, Yen. Grayson Peddie | 11/19/04

Pathetic... BitTwiddler | 11/18/04

MS warns Asian gov'ts on Linux lawsuits eddie.jones@... | 11/18/04

Is this about building an industry? Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

It may not make sense but it's what's happening eddie.jones@... | 11/18/04

Not at all... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Govts want their own code to save money and.. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

Is this about building an industry hparks | 11/18/04

TCO AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Simple solutions. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Re: Is this about building an industry? none none | 11/18/04

Separating proprietary from open source. Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

Re: Separating proprietary from open source. none none | 11/19/04

You really want to argue no special care needed? Anton Philidor | 11/19/04

Re: You really want to argue no special care needed? none none | 11/19/04

Losing rights. Anton Philidor | 11/19/04

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

Software is not the center of the universe? Anton Philidor | 11/19/04

No need to argue with you Anton. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

Could not agree more eddie.jones@... | 11/19/04

Hmm, maybe lengua99 | 11/21/04

Re: Microsoft warns Asian governments of Linux lawsuits none none | 11/18/04

Sounds Anton Philidor | 11/18/04

What is this? systemcleaner | 11/19/04

Is this your Fantasy? lengua99 | 11/21/04

Fantasy = Microsoft profits falling Anton Philidor | 11/22/04

Pirated Software or Linux duclod | 11/18/04

Patent panic? pbiss | 11/18/04

Naw, just catching up with others is all. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Same sort of thing happened in Munich, Germany. B.O.F.H. | 11/18/04

Well, if they can buy up the patents FilledOut | 11/18/04

Here's how it works Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/04

So that's why IBM invested $50 million in Novell. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Open-source les secure??? jameslouder | 11/18/04

Stupid Threat John L. Ries | 11/18/04

Exactly. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

The cost of Product Activation DRezanka | 11/18/04

Dear Steve, Cardinal_Bill | 11/18/04

Why Are You All Arguing With No_Facts_To_Find? itanalyst | 11/18/04

Down to personal insults again? Messeage has been deleted. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Nope, Just Stating FACT itanalyst | 11/18/04

Seems the majority disagree with your facts. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Ok No_Ax, Start Naming Names itanalyst | 11/18/04

Message has been deleted. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

yep JasonL31 | 11/18/04

haha JasonL31 | 11/18/04

BWAAHAA ! nomorems | 11/19/04

Right On target... ... el1jones | 11/18/04

So do me a favor and NEVER click on my posts again. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

If You Didn't SPAM The Boards With All Your Baseless Facts itanalyst | 11/18/04

You lack the ability to control your mouse? Sad indeed. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Considering You Are So Sad You Can't Get Yours To Work In Firefox itanalyst | 11/18/04

Clicking Next Message nomorems | 11/19/04

Pot... kettle... black? NonZealot | 11/18/04

Awww nomorems | 11/19/04

Spot On !!! . . . (nt) Plain Logic | 11/18/04

Here, here lengua99 | 11/21/04

If I were an Asian government... kokuryu | 11/18/04

It will happen. systemcleaner | 11/19/04

I fI were an Asian government TokyoPete | 11/19/04

More Secure? LO freakin' L conchchowder | 11/18/04

Reponse: Asian governments of Linux lawsuits dhefley@... | 11/18/04

Australian man patents the wheel. THIS IS TRUE wilhelm_z | 11/18/04

Who's illegal now? grstanley0 | 11/18/04

The things that Microsoft appears to be concerned about? B.O.F.H. | 11/18/04

Not just MS... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

We don't.. Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Hello, Hello President Bush. Traveler2 | 11/18/04

Hello Bubblememory, sorry but you failed. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

No_Ax please read my post a couple rows above wilhelm_z | 11/18/04

Are there stupid patents? Of course. So what? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

That would be interesting to see. Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Never going to happen. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Who owes us? Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Russia and half of Europe for starters (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/18/04

Do you have links? Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Look here AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Thanks TechDiva.. Patrick Jones | 11/18/04

Foreign interests now own more and more of America. B.O.F.H. | 11/18/04

Where did he fail? AbsolutelyNot | 11/18/04

Not true lengua99 | 11/21/04

can't "steal ip" if it is obvious technology hipparchus2000 | 11/18/04

Dear Mr. Gates itanalyst | 11/18/04

Nobody ever knows who built open-source software? Root User | 11/18/04

Appology to Dick Cheney ZombyWulf | 11/18/04

Cheney and Balmer are both the Anti-Chirst BXLE | 11/19/04

How long before MS will prevent posts such as these? johnlb2002 | 11/19/04

sounds like something a thug would say JasonL31 | 11/18/04

Free at last! asky | 11/18/04

MS sees the future jsjag1 | 11/18/04

M$ sees a future and it is NOT Windows! drichards1953 | 11/21/04

SPYING trapdoors Roger Huffadine | 11/18/04

Big Deal. Patent Smatent. I hate Software Patents. GreatInca | 11/18/04

Warning Labels On PCs Containing Microsloth Software - I HOPE This Is True! itanalyst | 11/18/04

More Sweaty Lies brenthawkinsmd | 11/18/04

trying not be political lol royray_z | 11/20/04

If you can't buy them out, sow fear uncertainty & doubt YuridaMan | 11/18/04

Got This From Slashdot.Org...HILARIOUS!!! itanalyst | 11/18/04

Software Competition jonjon1946@... | 11/18/04

Steve Ballmer = Dick Cheney wannabe gmerin | 11/18/04

No Way Suicida| | 11/18/04

Next round of FUD Suicida| | 11/18/04

Keep talking Steve, this is just what we want Richard Flude | 11/18/04

if ms felt linux was so bad, they would want windows users to try it JasonL31 | 11/18/04

Yeah but MS would probably want to CHARGE janitorman | 11/18/04

Man monkey-boy is a idiot and M$ is not too far after toxicfreak | 11/18/04

OK OK OK BXLE | 11/19/04

Wow, this guy is in all out FUD MODE! BitTwiddler | 11/19/04

FUD again bmcintyre@... | 11/19/04

Foreign governments warn MS of antitrust lawsuits .... George Mitchell | 11/19/04

Is everyones memory really so short ? AlanJackson_z | 11/19/04

Not their memories, just their fuses FilledOut | 11/19/04

Novell sues Open SOurce.... What the heck!!! No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/19/04

Solaris is "somewhat" built on Unix, which Novell owns. B.O.F.H. | 11/19/04

bitty, like ballmer, lacking in accuracy.. Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

Author of Ballmer-Cited Report Refutes Microsoft's FUD B.O.F.H. | 11/19/04

MS, etc., etc. ad infinitum.... paulj_z | 11/19/04

Microsoft's tactics have long been questionable xmatelot | 11/19/04

Great Going Mr Softie ..I'm with You on This One E-Xprize | 11/19/04

You are confusing the threat to IP with Linux lucmarcil@... | 11/19/04

Self fulfilling prophecy and FUD lucmarcil@... | 11/19/04

Marketing or Software oharajh | 11/19/04

Microsoft Extortion leonie_z | 11/19/04

They're Baaaack !!! aaronbaker | 11/19/04

MicroSoft in Asia lila1@... | 11/19/04

Kudos to Ballmer BobSchlesinger_z | 11/20/04

Linux lawsuits royray_z | 11/20/04

A good salesman doesn't lie, he just stretches the truth Chiatzu | 11/20/04

Interesting FUD Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

What is sad about all this. Troll-Catcher | 11/21/04

Can you say M$ = monopoly drichards1953 | 11/21/04

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yen_z | 11/21/04

Oh, by the way... Yen_z | 11/21/04

Microsoft levisouellet@... | 11/21/04

So much FUD, Balmer should change his name to Elmer YuridaMan | 11/21/04

Microsoft =[ Organized Criminals russell_john@... | 11/22/04

microsoft edgey8843 | 11/24/04

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