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While patents in general my be beneficial, Software patents are not: While patents in general my be beneficial, Software patents are not beneficial to society.

There is large body of opinion against Software patents.
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http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/Patents/patents.html; Posted by: David Mohring Posted on: 10/04/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Do the right thing Tim Patterson | 10/04/04

No problem here! dg mh | 10/04/04

*lol* eLurker | 10/04/04

Can somebody help me about patents? Kamakazii | 10/04/04

Against Software Patents and full rational David Mohring | 10/04/04

Good post until... Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Not altruistic but realistic David Mohring | 10/04/04

Yes, patents are good. Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Challenge: Show me a "good" Software patent. David Mohring | 10/04/04

Only patent attornies need apply Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Exactly! No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Not so Tim Patterson | 10/04/04

Patent things that are meant to be patented voska | 10/04/04

Are you suggesting... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

A Challenge Thrice: Then point out a "good" software patent David Mohring | 10/04/04

Are you ready for surgery yet? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Please point to an argument that I have not addressed David Mohring | 10/04/04

I notice NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Yes, exactly voska | 10/04/04

But I am a developer and your answering a question with a question David Mohring | 10/04/04

Not that easy Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

So there are no "good" software patents, only "good" Patent attornies? David Mohring | 10/04/04

Yeah, just like a programmer can make bad open source. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Yes. And patents will continue... Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

"... patent / free competition balance to be dialectical, not static" David Mohring | 10/04/04

And patents actually do some good... Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

While patents in general my be beneficial, Software patents are not David Mohring | 10/04/04

David, that is one groups opinion, I can show you others. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

No_Ax_to_Grind, Then please provide links. David Mohring | 10/04/04

If I were making a theoretical argument for software patents... Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Re: Yes. And patents will continue... none none | 10/04/04

Software patents are wrong! Simple voska | 10/04/04

Not at all... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Unlike Linux, your company researches? Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Exactly, the problem is open source can't. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Re: Unlike Linux, your company researches? none none | 10/04/04

Not their domain IT_User | 10/04/04

Nonsense NemesisNL | 10/04/04

A couple reasons here. voska | 10/04/04

Software Patents charliech | 10/04/04

I got a few. doe_z | 10/04/04

But does not the copyright protect you? voska | 10/04/04

Re: Can somebody help me about patents? P. Douglas | 10/04/04

LOL, Sun, wearing the other shoe this time FilledOut | 10/04/04

Yeah, come easy, go easy. Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

exactly NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Against Software Patents and full rational David Mohring | 10/04/04

Thanks 4 the info Kamakazii | 10/04/04

Problems with your "game theory" argument Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Counter... doe_z | 10/04/04

Check the attic for valuable antiques. Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

So... doe_z | 10/04/04

The sky is falling.... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Challenge: Show me a "good" Software patent. David Mohring | 10/04/04

Sorry, patent searchs cost money. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

You said it more briefly than I. (NT) Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

Sorry, you liar, the USPTO provide a free web based search David Mohring | 10/04/04

Yeah, and I can look at... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Well??? Would you? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

David, I am point you to the above post. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

But if a doctor showed you an Xray of a dog. David Mohring | 10/04/04

Sorry, wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Axe actually is right NemesisNL | 10/04/04

If youhire a patent lawyer, it costs to do the search! B.O.F.H. | 10/04/04

They can't.... el1jones | 10/04/04

They can't ... disprove the existance of Unicorns either David Mohring | 10/04/04

oh come on david... NemesisNL | 10/04/04

I was mostly agreeing with you....(and unicorns do exist) el1jones | 10/04/04

After some quick research, I've concluded that... el1jones | 10/04/04

Microsoft Next tero_t_vaananen@... | 10/04/04

You forget who is partners with MS. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Microsoft is parterned with Kodak? voska | 10/04/04

You bet they are. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

why? V Sanders | 10/04/04

Ah, so you prefer ignorance. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Not so sure about that voska | 10/04/04

Nope NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Great news! George Mitchell | 10/04/04

Frankly, your dead wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

ms is losing teir monopoly V Sanders | 10/04/04

Gee, I can't tell. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

No one else thinks so? IT_User | 10/04/04

Sure NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Hogwash and you know it. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Not directly NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Sorry, Kodak started this long ago. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

I am up to speed NemesisNL | 10/04/04

No, Kodak filed the patent long ago. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

So who's not up to speed NemesisNL | 10/04/04

patents yes NemesisNL | 10/04/04

You are right, it's a very old patent. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

No, but they have tried to extort money using them Taz_z | 10/04/04

Offering a license is extortion? Hmmm, can you say GPL? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Please tell me what patents and GPL have in common. Taz_z | 10/04/04

They both restrict and limit what may be done. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Only if you redistribute it or sell it Taz_z | 10/04/04

Yup, same as a patent. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Please show me this Taz_z | 10/04/04

Sorry, you are wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Speaking of getting a clue, Taz_z | 10/04/04

Extort? rapson | 10/04/04

Going a little overboard there, aren't you? Taz_z | 10/04/04

Taz, this isn't about Microsoft... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

I agree. Taz_z | 10/04/04

Taz, stop reaching for straws. K? (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Can you say "BayStar"? George Mitchell | 10/04/04

What's Next? coffeenite | 10/04/04

has anyone patented painting pictures of dogs or anything like that V Sanders | 10/04/04

David Morphing: You asked... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

yep... NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Simply isn't true... No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

We are just at the beginning of this ordeal NemesisNL | 10/04/04

I've heard that for 30 years. Hasn't happened yet. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

software patents are fairly new NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Pardon me... Take a look at IBM's patent holdings. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Nobody has "been at it" for 30 years IT_User | 10/04/04

Not true IT_User | 10/04/04

Meaning of innovation Anton Philidor | 10/04/04

You hit the nail on the head. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Yeah, the sky is falling IT_User | 10/04/04

Re: David Morphing: You asked... none none | 10/04/04

Notice who is against patents in the talkbacks. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Notice who is getting Sued,not open source but Microsoft's customers David Mohring | 10/04/04

Never happened. No MS user has been sued. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

Man get your facts straigt NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Point being, NO MS use has been sued. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

*user* No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

No need to draw NemesisNL | 10/04/04

Nice rant, have anything of value to contribute? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

What is wrong with you people? none none | 10/04/04

Let's see if I get this right IT_User | 10/04/04

The history of blood letting. Accounting and actual software patent returns David Mohring | 10/04/04

Again, the only ones complaining is the have nots. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

You mean Enron was innocent of accounting fraud? David Mohring | 10/04/04

Man, you really are reaching for any straw. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

David, you can relax now. You got him. Taz_z | 10/04/04

It you think ranting about Enron is On Topic. OK. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

She is absolutely right... BitTwiddler | 10/04/04

Not true. No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

It's not as if Americans want to compete! B.O.F.H. | 10/04/04

What has your post to do with anything in this story? No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/04/04

What are you whining about now? B.O.F.H. | 10/04/04

After looking at all the posts CobraA1 | 10/04/04

Patents - The First and Ultimate Open Source Project secureplay_z | 10/05/04

Sounds good but ... George Mitchell | 10/05/04

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