Microsoft FAT patent falls flat

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Really? Lets examine that a bit.: Before Samba can access a file on a Windows box those files must be sharted. How do you access a shared file on a Windows box? Well, you must first authenticate your rights via the Windows system. You know, the system with the patents...

Hmmm, I haven't used Samba but if it's like most UNIX beasts, don't you first have to MOUNT THE DRIVE? You know the FAT based drive...

Tell me somnething else guys. If you are so rigtht, and I am so wrong, why are the Samba guys scared???; Posted by: No_Ax_to_Grind Posted on: 09/30/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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FAT patent crocd | 09/30/04

Removing a patent is a long drawn out process. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Who's trying to remove a patent? Physco Dude | 09/30/04

Look at the article header Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

All patents are granted... Physco Dude | 09/30/04

I forgot to add... Physco Dude | 09/30/04

Yes, you missed a lot.. d_jedi | 09/30/04

But didn't Microsoft just apply for a patent... voska | 09/30/04

It's up to the Director IT_User | 09/30/04

No, only Micoresoft can appeal. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Well, actually rule IT_User | 09/30/04

Re: But didn't Microsoft just apply for a patent... (fix the f*ing forums!) d_jedi | 10/01/04

Are they removing the patent .. crocd | 09/30/04

Correct, and that IS a VERY long process. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

incorrect Physco Dude | 09/30/04

Not appealing, in the formal sense IT_User | 09/30/04

Please do yourself a favor and read the law. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

This is a public policy question John L. Ries | 09/30/04

However... Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

True enough, however... No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Not true in this case... Physco Dude | 09/30/04

Without a patent IT_User | 09/30/04

Again, read the law on the matter. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

and OFC neither do yours NAG Always Annoyed | 10/01/04

Even more ridiculous patents have been justifed by some wresnick | 10/01/04

MS will have to let this one go, or face Eolas again FilledOut | 09/30/04

Eolas hasn't "let it go". No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

And because they won't let it go... Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

That may be, however... No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Microsoft is appealing, no Eolas Physco Dude | 09/30/04

Mixing up the meaning of "appeal" IT_User | 09/30/04

Bring it on MS, all your patents will be voided! Xunil_Sierutuf | 09/30/04

Patent office must have gotten your letters FilledOut | 09/30/04

Bring it on IBM, all your patents will be voided! No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Actually, Ax... Yen_z | 09/30/04

IBM has many hardware patents that will be unaffected (NT) Update victim | 10/01/04

When, oh WHEN will ZDNet stop repeating falsehoods Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

I believe they are talking about Samba running on Windows. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Samba runs on Windows? Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

I should have said, a Windows enviornment. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

No, that's not an issue. mobrien_12@... | 09/30/04

Really? Lets examine that a bit. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

You really don't have a clue about this, do you? B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

You failed to answer either question. Why? No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

3 things Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

The Samba guys are 'scared' because ... George Mitchell | 09/30/04

Ok No_Ax, some answers (simplified just for you!) B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

Scared... Patrick Jones | 09/30/04

Mounting the Drive John L. Ries | 09/30/04

Ok I'm going to try to explain this. mobrien_12@... | 09/30/04

no-ax question back to you V Sanders | 10/01/04

You are so clueless, bitty AmusedAtItAll | 10/01/04

The panent would have no bearing in such a case Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

You lack the knowledge here voska | 09/30/04

Read my above reply. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Like I said, you're in over your head voska | 10/01/04

You really don't understand whayt SaMBa does, do you? B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

Samba implments SMB on Unix based systems! B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

If the patent is held up... BitTwiddler | 09/30/04

And effects 95% of users how? No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Maybe not initially Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

You mean like IE? No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

IE is going downhill.. d_jedi | 09/30/04

Stagnant, yes. Anton Philidor | 09/30/04

OK, you got me.. d_jedi | 10/01/04

Free surfer link Anton Philidor | 10/01/04

Um, not by any reports I've read. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

We read different reports (nt) CobraA1 | 10/01/04

So you're saying IE's market share is increasing? d_jedi | 10/01/04

Firefox is slowly making inroads Michael Kelly | 09/30/04

Change "slowly" to "invisibly" (NT) Anton Philidor | 09/30/04

Not yet IT_User | 09/30/04

Thee already are PA-ITGuy | 09/30/04

Not a problem at all .. George Mitchell | 09/30/04

I said "without having to install any special software" PA-ITGuy | 10/01/04

'Patent quality'?! Yo Microsoft, try PRODUCT quality HypnoToad | 09/30/04

This is good CobraA1 | 09/30/04

One of four previously issued FAT patents now in question. Anton Philidor | 09/30/04

re previously granted to Microsoft for a Windows file format. V Sanders | 09/30/04

Welcome back, Anton the Microsoft perpetual cheerleader! systemcleaner | 10/01/04

Mixing up the meaning of "appeal" IT_User | 09/30/04

Thank you, these folks seem to be without a clue on the process. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

Isn't it a little late to be patenting FAT? John L. Ries | 09/30/04

Sigh,,, they have had the patents for years. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

How recently were they granted? John L. Ries | 09/30/04

Now having read the decision... John L. Ries | 09/30/04

FAT is used in SD and Flash media. B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

They are not "doing" the patent, it's been in place. No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/04

This particular patent (5,579,517) has 'been in place' since 1995 George Mitchell | 09/30/04

Thanx for the info voska | 10/01/04

learn to read! B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04

ms fighting this just makes them look bad V Sanders | 09/30/04

Microsoft is and was always a self-serving monopoly. systemcleaner | 10/01/04

Most companies who believe they can either FilledOut | 10/01/04

Patenting the uninnovative michael-t | 09/30/04

The pertinant facts: George Mitchell | 09/30/04

Another Republican election ploy? systemcleaner | 10/01/04

No CobraA1 | 10/01/04

FAT patent - what arrogance tony@... | 10/01/04

Ban Patents IT_Critic | 10/01/04

Samba uses a network protocol, not a file format balsover | 10/01/04

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