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What I'm Saying Is Not Propaganda
Either you are just passing on ignorant heresay, or you have an agenda.

There are many studies showing that java is comparable in speed to C++ and is in some cases actually faster. Here are a couple articles for reference.

http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html
http://www.pankaj-k.net/weblog-archive/000080.html


I?m not ignorant, nor do I have an agenda. I?m just tired of people telling me Java?s speed is okay, only to find out otherwise. The last time I had a Sun JVM installed on my computer, it slowed down my computer as if it were adware. This happened after I visited a map site per the recommendation of a ZDNet UK writer, where I winded up loading Sun?s JVM and (maybe other Java components) onto my computer. It was bad enough that the map program wasn?t fast after the Java software was installed, the Java components substantially slowed down the overall speed of my computer. It was only after I removed the Sun JVM from my computer, that its speed was restored. I almost couldn?t believe it.

The first link that you gave me performed testing under ideal, non-real world conditions. [url=http://www.jelovic.com/articles/why_java_is_slow.htm]This link[/url] explains for real apps, Java is much slower than C++. I find the explanation by the link I gave to be consistent with my own experience with Java on the desktop. Maybe you can get away with doing simple applications with Java on the desktop. However beyond that, Java is just too slow to be of much practical use.

The following is an excerpt from the link I referenced above:

The Benchmarks

Perversely, the only area in which Java can be as fast as C++ is a typical benchmark. If you need to calculate Nth Fibonacci number or run Linpack, there is no reason why Java cannot be as fast as C++. As long as all the computation stays in one class and uses only primitive data types like int and double, the Java compiler is on equal footing with the C++ compiler.
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I think they need this...especially in the Linux world...  Stellardyne | 09/30/04
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Can you quantify and clarify the following?  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/04
quatification and clarification...  Stellardyne | 10/01/04
Window Components  P. Douglas | 09/30/04
Java always shakes up desktop  FilledOut | 09/30/04
must be using msjava still  V Sanders | 09/30/04
Nope  FilledOut | 10/01/04
Java 5 is awesome...  prime21 | 09/30/04
As do I.  doe_z | 09/30/04
Instead of running really, really, really slow ...  P. Douglas | 09/30/04
Why do you continue the "java is slow" propaganda  tjaw09a | 09/30/04
What I'm Saying Is Not Propaganda  P. Douglas | 09/30/04
Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about  tjaw09a | 09/30/04
I agree (NT)  CobraA1 | 09/30/04
I forgot to mention...  tjaw09a | 09/30/04
Huh?  Jomo_z | 10/01/04
Good Point - let's use Assembly Language  David Hamilton | 10/01/04
C++ is usually as fast as assembly language  balsover | 10/01/04
What planet?  drdozer | 10/01/04
loo, no kidding, trying running xp on that OLD pc, dog slow  V Sanders | 09/30/04
How is that old 486 holding up these days?  B.O.F.H. | 09/30/04
upgrade and get away from slow MSJAVA  V Sanders | 09/30/04
Then don't load a Linux on it, it'll die of old age first  FilledOut | 10/01/04
java sure is improving fast now that msjava is dead  V Sanders | 09/30/04
Unfortunately  CobraA1 | 09/30/04
Java Slowness  mrlinux | 10/01/04
MS had to stop shipping MSJava  balsover | 10/01/04

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