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And when no one buys this crippled hardware
these companies and their fair-use removal technology will wither away just as their failed predecessors did.
Posted by: James T. Kirk   Posted on: 09/10/04 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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And when no one buys this crippled hardware  James T. Kirk | 09/10/04
Did you read it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Well golly gee  James T. Kirk | 09/10/04
John, I was simply pointing out where you were wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Ranting???  James T. Kirk | 09/10/04
It may be in their hand but it's not active  voska | 09/10/04
Sorry, you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
He didn't say they weren't encoded.  James T. Kirk | 09/10/04
Dish TV  Middle of the Road | 09/11/04
you give the average consumer too much credit...  ryusen | 09/10/04
Too true. (NT)  James T. Kirk | 09/10/04
None of this solves the problem  chrislovesdana | 09/10/04
Exactly...but can someone intelligent answer this???  Stellardyne | 09/10/04
I'll give it a stab.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Well, you see what I mean, right No Ax?  Stellardyne | 09/10/04
The why of it is simple.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Your right there is no excuse  voska | 09/10/04
Not true...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Re: Not True  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Not that simple either.  Rabayn | 09/10/04
he lacks the capability  ryusen | 09/10/04
Well, lets use a real analogy that does fit.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
You are wrong, complain all you like.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Re: Well, lets use a real analogy that does fit.  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Re: You are wrong, complain all you like  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Rayban, not even close.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Having been a teacher  voska | 09/10/04
Re: Rayban, not even close  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Rayban, a responce.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Re: Having been a teacher  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Voska and teaching.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Also nothing says you can't  voska | 09/10/04
In response to teach freeloaders  voska | 09/10/04
Voska, you finally hit it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Re: Rayban, a responce.  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Wrong, they don't get to set the rules  voska | 09/10/04
I agree, but again, even in your exmaple...  Stellardyne | 09/10/04
Thanks for summing that all up.. =)  Rabayn | 09/10/04
So your point is....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Re: So your point is....  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Rayban, who's numbers do you use?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Re: Rayban, who's numbers do you use?  Rabayn | 09/11/04
RABAN, lets talk about numbers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
What about the numbers?  Rabayn | 09/12/04
You don't have to  voska | 09/10/04
a quick search  Hanover Phist | 09/10/04
don't forget...  ryusen | 09/10/04
blockbuster?  ryusen | 09/10/04
Incredibly simple math (sort of)  tamuhockey | 09/13/04
no one steals movies  V Sanders | 09/10/04
TiVo may be the target, Mr. Saunders.  Sunny Jalolly | 09/10/04
Lets take a look at your claims.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
So your point is nothing more than agreement  Sunny Jalolly | 09/10/04
Yes, no, and sort of...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
So by your  Linux User 147560 | 09/11/04
No, lets look at it another way.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Re: No, lets look at it another way.  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Addendum to my statement  Linux User 147560 | 09/11/04
Are you "reproducing" the web page?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
commercials - NOT MPAA/RIAA responsibility  tamuhockey | 09/13/04
One issue here  voska | 09/10/04
Who *OWNS* the copyright?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Right, no one does  voska | 09/10/04
Sorry but your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Figures of speach  voska | 09/10/04
Huh, of course it's owned.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
Your claim that copyright holders don't have to follow the law  voska | 09/10/04
Voska: What law are you talking about?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
So what?  rlsuth | 09/10/04
Just another small point.  Rabayn | 09/10/04
Not a small point at all!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Not quite  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Well.. yes and no...  Root User | 09/11/04
Re: Well.. yes and no...  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Yes, QUITE  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
No_Ax is wrong here, again.  Root User | 09/10/04
Thank you  Linux User 147560 | 09/11/04
I think you need to re-read it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
You are the one who should re-read  Root User | 09/11/04
You have one view...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Re: You have one view...  Rabayn | 09/11/04
You bet I can offer...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Re: You bet I can offer...  Root User | 09/12/04
no ax - if it was up to you  V Sanders | 09/11/04
Aw, what a cute little rant.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Yes, to No_Ax, public library == Piracy  Root User | 09/12/04
Get back to me when you become a public library.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
What was written is irrelevant  hipparchus2000 | 09/11/04
Why???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
TiVo may be a target for other reasons...  B.O.F.H. | 09/10/04
TiVo does not eliminate ads at all  Sunny Jalolly | 09/10/04
Unless you stop recording during the commecials.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
You are reallty grasping on this one  Sunny Jalolly | 09/10/04
It doesn't allow for a pause?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
no ax doesn't like tivo - it uses linux  V Sanders | 09/11/04
Ah V Sanders: Time to get in the gutter I see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
so, they've created yet another scheme,  ryusen | 09/10/04
That's figure of speech  voska | 09/10/04
I fail to see your point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/10/04
you can...  ryusen | 09/10/04
Yes, you may do a low grade capture.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
consider compression?  ryusen | 09/13/04
Digital vs. Analog is irrelevant (a straw man)  Root User | 09/10/04
But your "opinion" simply doesn't matter.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Try again.  Root User | 09/11/04
Sorry, there aren't any.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
I have a MovieBox Analog to DV converter  hipparchus2000 | 09/11/04
Message has been deleted.  cybershoplifter | 09/11/04
I think No_Ax is an agitator...  Root User | 09/11/04
Then let me clarify for you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/11/04
Ummmm....  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Ummm, reply....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
The OWNER is the purchaser...  Root User | 09/11/04
While I wish what you were saying was true....  Rabayn | 09/11/04
No, DMCA doesn't change ownership rules  Root User | 09/11/04
However  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Re: However  Root User | 09/11/04
big differance  V Sanders | 09/11/04
Let's supose  Rabayn | 09/11/04
Re: Let's suppose  Root User | 09/11/04
The reason  Rabayn | 09/12/04
RE: However redux...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Tell you what...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Ripping is completely different  Root User | 09/12/04
And your not being honest!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Re: And your not being honest!  Root User | 09/12/04
Your wrong, dead wrong...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
Oh yeah?  Root User | 09/12/04
Agreed  hipparchus2000 | 09/11/04
Glad to see I got through to you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
you are right no ax  V Sanders | 09/11/04
Of course I am right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/12/04
"for example to copy DVDs" how about just watching the film  hipparchus2000 | 09/11/04
no kidding  V Sanders | 09/11/04
give me a usb dongle anyday ove call home verification  V Sanders | 09/11/04

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